Usyk is RATTLED Fury already winning the mind games

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  1. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    If Fury ducks Usyk it makes him the GOAT.

    Which boxer has turned down $50m ever?
     
  2. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Only thing Fury is rattling is the refrigerator door.
     
  3. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I actually was the first to describe either as "rattled," and it was Fury. OP is using my lingo.

    I described Fury as rattled because he is. Usually he is cool, calm and collected, 6beating his opponents in the sauna. Agaisnt Usyk he has been a raving ******, especially that night Usyk just showed up and Fury was crying "Suck my nuts!"
     
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  4. Furious

    Furious Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He's just playing the villain because he understands that's his role due to Usyk's lack of English. It's a boring way to look at it, but all they are doing is building the fight I'm afraid. It's unlikely that either are "rattled" or "ducking" or whatever people on here like to trot out.
     
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  5. spravedlivylev

    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

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    Lol.
     
  6. spravedlivylev

    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

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    I can imagine this to be the case even in the UK. Yeah, we have people like miniq here, but he is mostly trolling I'm quite sure. Fury is indeed in a sticky situation. He built himself up with the bollocks about "no man born blah blah" and the "people's champion". After all that, ducking a fighter who (at least in the minds of that type of boxing fans you just mentioned, that is) is some 50 lbs lighter, 4 inches smaller and speaks barely any English but still kept calling out Uncle Fester, he went to watch him live and had a staredown with him... It wouldn't be a good look for Fury for sure.

    He has one of the weakest resumes of a heavyweight champion. Only six title bouts in a total of 34 career fights, fought against only four different guys out of which only two were champions at any point in their careers - and even out of those two, only one is a truly notable win. Paper-thin resume, a steaming pile of turd compared to the mass hysteria that surrounds Fury, especially in the UK. It's insane what social media and running your mouth can do for casuals, but as you duly pointed out, if he ducks Usyk, it will be all over for him for sure. I can easily see the public turning against him as a result.
     
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  7. Terror

    Terror free smoke Full Member

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    He was using a particular drug which he got caught for and he looked it as well. My best guess is he was using a bunch of particular things and then some other things that are commonly used to address symptoms, but failed to address all of the hormones that influence mammory tissue growth. It wasn't loose skin. Once they go out and stay out, the mammory growths, they have to be removed surgically. They appear as fat, but are actually little puffy balls of mammory gland and tissue. Once it's stuck like that, you gotta pay a fancy plastic surgeon $10k to dig the whole thing out with a melon baller and then fill it in with fat as best they can, but you still get a subtle dimple there on the chest under the nipple. It's something that many abusers have but plastic surgeons have got pretty good at hiding. Fury has had this procedure, so has The Rock, and tens of thousands of others. It is a condition that will virtually never develop in adulthood without hormone influence.
     
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  8. MAD_PIGE0N

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    Just to let you know: higher nandrolone levels can really follow after wild boar consumption.

    A man can suffer from gyno or fat tits without the usage of any drugs.
     
  9. Terror

    Terror free smoke Full Member

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    Do they sell that at the same grocery store that sells Clen Beef and Roy Jones Protein Powder?
     
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  10. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Truth is, if Fury and Usyk fight next, how badly Usyk loses will determine whether he's viewed by history as even on par with Michael Spinks.

    Michael Spinks beat a better heavyweight champion twice (Holmes was better than Joshua).

    Michael Spinks beat sad-sack former contender Gerry Cooney, knocking him all over the ring and stopping him. Usyk won a tough 7-5 in rounds decision over sad-sack, former contender Derek Chisora.

    And Steffen Tangstad was better than Chazz Witherspoon. Usyk couldn't even put Chazz down. Usyk hasn't put anyone down at heavyweight.

    That's about it for Usyk as a heavyweight.

    If Usyk gets destroyed by the heavyweight champion Tyson Fury, Oleksandr probably won't be viewed even as highly as Spinks at heavyweight.

    I don't expect Usyk to get blown out in a round. I think it'll be like Wlad-Ibragimov. Fury will batter him at a distance, maul him, drop Usyk, and probably coast. But, who knows.

    Usyk's place in heavyweight history really will be determined by how much of a fight he puts up because, if he faces Fury next, Usyk's reign will be over next time out.
     
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  11. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Usyk is already up there with Holyfield even if Fury chins him in 1 round

    The only thing this fight will show is how bad AJ is.
     
  12. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Usyk isn't up there with Holyfield in the heavyweight division. Usyk has had four heavyweight fights, two against the same guy. And he hasn't even scored a knockdown yet.

    Whether Usyk is as good a heavyweight as Michael Spinks will be determined by how dominant Fury is in dispatching him.

    After four heavyweight fights, heading into the Mike Tyson bout, Spinks beat better competition than Usyk has at heavyweight so far and Michael was more dominant (having scored five knockdowns and two KOs in those four fights). Usyk didn't even beat Chisora in a dominant manner.
     
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  13. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I appreciate all the information!
    However you mean because the LOOK after surgery is different from loose skin removed-& the drug he was caught for has this side effect-he was guilty?

    Also I cannot understand this: why would they need to be removed if you just wrote before that comment "once they go out & stay out"?
    If they ARE already out, why need to remove it?
     
  14. spravedlivylev

    spravedlivylev Haaaappy Neeeew Yeeeear! banned Full Member

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    You mean Usyk, who ate clean right hands from Joshua without even slowing down, will be dropped for the first time in his professional career by the pillow-fisted guy who needed 150 power punches and 11 rounds to stop a stationary, disorientated and exhausted Wilder who had been a walking punching bag for seven straight rounds?

    Cool story, mate.

    Usyk will school Fury. It won't be a pretty sight, I expect a total meltdown from Fury and his corner after Usyk finishes off his career by badly schooling him. There's a reason Fury has been messing around with the contract. Even Frank Warren confirmed how it's Fury everyone is waiting for. Fury didn't want to face Usyk a year ago, he wants to duck him again. He knows how dangerous Usyk is for him, he is all wrong for him stylistically.
     
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  15. Ivan28

    Ivan28 Active Member Full Member

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    Money are not the problem, but the time that Usyk needs to prepare better for the fight.For his last fights it was 11, 12 months.Now looks like he's ok with 8, 9 months, but still too much for Tyson to accept it.Fury knows something(or they think so, he and his father think Usyk is taking PEDs and is cleaning his body in that year before fights) and he won't give that time to Usyk.From what i understand, Fury want's to give him maximum 3, 4 months camp and he will be injured, busy with other fight or whatever until Usyk will fight Dubois and then again "let's fight after 3 months".