Usyk is vacating all the belts!

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  1. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    C'mon, dude. Even a child could understand.

    -UNIFIED cruiserweight champ
    - Beaten three other cruiserweight champions including an ATG
    - Now a heavyweight champ, the fourth man to hold both

    You are just talking out of your ass, now.
     
  2. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If Usyk vacated the belts when Trevor Bryan held Gassievs title he'd have become the champion lol. Dude didn't beat anyone for that belt
     
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  3. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Gassiev was never the best cruiserweight in the world and was only relevant there for like 2 1/2 years. And no of course I don't consider anyone he beat there an ATG.

    Why would you expect me or anyone else to rate Wlocardczyk or Lebedev as ATGs?
     
  4. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    He really shouldn't be but statistically he now is
     
  5. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fans value being the best over belt collection

    In this day and age you can have a long title reign with 10 plus title defenses without even being one of the top guys of your era just by selective matchmaking.

    Charles Martin managed to pick up a belt and he wasn't even world class
     
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  6. Dangerwood84

    Dangerwood84 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I just don't understand the relevance these belts continue to hold.
     
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  7. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    HE BEAT AN ATG CRUISER AND TWO OTHER CHAMPS.
     
  8. catchwtboxing

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    According to the Associations of Boxing Commissions and Combative Sports’ Unified Boxing Rules;

    6. All professional boxers are required to wear a mouthpiece during competition. The round cannot begin without the mouthpiece. If the mouthpiece is dislodged during competition, the referee will call time and have the mouthpiece replaced at the first opportune moment, without interfering with the immediate action. Points may be deducted by the referee if he feels the mouthpiece is being purposely spit out

    https://athleticcommission.wv.gov/media/11876/download?inline

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_Boxing_Commissions

    They tried to screw Usyk. Period.


     
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  9. Kiwi Casual

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    It was placed after a successful count, before action resumes. They didn't try to screw Usyk out of anything.

    I'm sorry but you're absolutely wrong on this one bud. Go rewatch the fight.
     
  10. catchwtboxing

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    Interfered with the course of the fights. Clearly a rules violation.
     
  11. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He didn't beat an ATG cruiser and the champs he beat were never the best in the division hence my complete indifference.

    When there is more than one champ in a division it becomes a lot less impressive and noteworthy to beat one.

    It's offensive to actual greats to try to try to claim guys who never the best in their respective divisions were great.
     
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  12. catchwtboxing

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    Lebedev is indisputably an ATG at the weight.
     
  13. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    When was Lebedev the clear number one in the division? Pick a year
     
  14. Kiwi Casual

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    No it didn't. The fight was already stopped due to the KD. The ref saw he had no mouthguard, and put it back in before action resumes.

    If the ref was out to get Usyk, he wouldn't have waved the fight off at the end of the 11th.
     
  15. catchwtboxing

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    Look at who he beat. It's all about resume.