Usyk: Lomachenko best p4p fighter at present

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  1. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    I totally agree.

    2 weight world champion in less than 10 fights, a fighter who wants to fight the best and also his skill set is way above every other fighter currently.

    Just imagine Lomachenko v Ward if they where the same size, Ward imo wouldn't stand a chance.
     
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  2. Champagne Popping

    Champagne Popping The TRUTH is the TRUTH banned Full Member

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    Thatsright11 was too upset by the thread title to even come into this thread lol! It would have ruined his day reading some of these comments
     
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  3. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ward is slower now, so I'd agree that Loma looks better p4p now.

    However, although I'm a huge Loma fan, but not sure I agree if we are talking about peak Ward at 168 lb. IMO his skills then were close to Loma, I still probably rate Loma higher but it would be a competitive fight.

    Both are pretty incredible athletes:
    - Loma is the arguably greatest amateur ever, 396-1 with the only loss avenged twice is astronomical. Especially when you consider that amateur fights are short and there's often not a lot of time to recover from a poor start for example.
    - Ward hasn't lost in the ring since he was 12, which is also utterly ridiculous. IMO he should have lost to Kovalev (close) but still ...
     
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  4. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Ward had five losses in the amateurs.
     
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  5. Gannicus

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  6. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Mchunu is definitely world class. I don't know where he fits in ranking wise but if he's not top 10 it's only because CW is stacked to ****. In terms of talent and skill he's one of the very best in the division. He's very slick and awkward and nobody looks good against him. Eddie Chambers was very impressed and full of praise for him after fighting him. Very few would opt to face him in a voluntary, let alone in their first defence and their big US debut. He'll make you look bad even if you do beat him. Those that are talking him down DKSAB.
     
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  7. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    To who? How come he claims to be unbeaten there?
     
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  8. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Usyk's win over Glowacki is better than anything Loma has done, but Loma does have a deeper resume. Usyk should be in p4p discussions though. A win over Glowacki is one of the best wins this year.
     
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  9. kk17

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    he lost at least in the amateurs vs Esus Gonzalez
     
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  10. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    John Revish, Jesus Gonzalez... Because he's delusional.
     
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  11. Jake LaMotta

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    Lol those fights were in 1996. He was 12 at most. Ward's claim is he hasn't lost a fight since he was a teenager, which is 100% indisputably true.
     
    Jake LaMotta, Dec 17, 2016
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  12. Hi-Tek-Lomo

    Hi-Tek-Lomo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yep. Mchunu is a highly-skilled operator
     
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  13. JacK Rauber

    JacK Rauber Unbourboned by what has been Full Member

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    So you have Kovalev at #1?
     
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  14. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    Cant argue with that

    Hes defintely up there
     
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  15. Odo

    Odo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree with you,ellerbe! Loma has a deeper resume.Glowaki is a fabulous scalp,but Usyk needs more of them.Right now I would rate Loma higher than Usyk in the p4p list.
     
    Odo, Dec 17, 2016
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