Usyk looks more and more dominant with every rewatch

You male fair points
I personally would lean to 8-4 rather than 9-3, but 9-3 is certainly less ridiculous than a Fury win or even a draw

In fact it isn't particularly ridiculous, but I would be a little more generous to Fury
Is it because I picked him? Maybe

 

I gave Usyk round 1, though it was very even. Round 2 Usyk did well, but Fury took control of the round down the stretch. 1-3 were each very even in terms of landed punches, and there's really no way around that. Could you argue those rounds for Usyk? Sure, but you could also argue them for Fury. Round 1-3 were not "Clear" Usyk rounds by any stretch of the imagination.

OK, and what would you say to lordy who say Round 4 as a "Clear" Usyk round?

FYI Compubox had Fury outlanding Usyk 15-12 in round 3.

 

Maybe... But given your lack of reluctance to let go? I'm not convinced that's why.

Usyks tendency to sometimes measure up his man for 2/3 to 3/4 of a round and allow false confidence to grow before picking apart with highly dominant finishes to rounds plays a part too...
The length of time one fighter appears to be up can sway us into thinking more time probably means more scored - which it doesn't necessarily... AI is blind to this, or at least not trained to take it into account, where it can catch us out more easily?

There's different ways to score this one based on what you value... And it's easy to disagree - experienced judges do, AI disagrees with them too (especially in this one).

 

8-4 is my score also, but 7-5 and 9-3 works as well.

 

i wasn't visiting you as biased lol. I know what your stand was.
As far as Adam goes, he is changing his opinion every 2 seconds, and he couldn't be more toxic prior to the fight. And had the ref has robbed Usyk, he would have been all over the place explaining how Fury won fair and square. And now he is trying to pull spin yarns how the fight was close, bla, bla, bla.

You will see what i mean soon enough.

 

I'd like to add that very few has mentioned Usyk's effective aggression in the closer rounds. That can be a swing if it's close in terms of landed punches.

 

Yeah every so close round was actually Usyk round, as he was not only the effective aggressor, but he put tremendous pressure on Fury, and Fury was playing on Usyk gameplan + the so call close rounds, aka 3 and 7, Usyk outlanded him by quite a bit.
So there is no way you can make a case for Fury winning this rounds, unless you are heavily biased.

This is what i'm explaining for 2 days, and AI scoring and stats confirmed it.

 

Very true. And along those same lines, you can make the argument that Fury's ring generalship could swing rounds 1-3 in his favor. Effective Aggression and Ring Generalship are 2 of the 4 scoring criteria. In close rounds (as 1-3 were) when the number of landed punches were about even, Ring Generalship can be used to swing those rounds in favor of Fury, just as Effective Aggression can be used to swing the late rounds in favor of Usyk.

 

Bollocks.

He had an opinion before the fight - he saw the evidence and did the honest thing and revised his opinion... And he did that long before the fight was over.

Except I'm fairly sure in the RBR he said that Usyk had won unless they robbed him... I don't care enough to look for it, but I'm fairly sure he said as much.

If the robbery happened, I don't think he'd have defended it.

If they'd robbed Usyk to give AJ the second fight... I'm not quite as sure you'd have denounced it.

Fortunately we'll never know - about either fight and either poster, since neither robbery happened.

He says Fury was competitive... Which he was for decent spells of some rounds he shouldn't have won - just not competitive enough.

He's not defending the 6-6 card, let alone the 7-5 for Fury... If he was desperate for something to cling to he'd be doing that - the reason he's not is, IMHO, because he's an honest poster.

 

Fury wasn't the ring general in those rounds, Usyk was the effective aggressor. He decided where the exchanges would be made for the most part.

 

Bollocks, really? Same guy was shouting how Ngannou will smash AJ and KO him. How AJ won't be able to move Ngannou in the clinch, and Ngannou will KO chinny Joshua. How AJ can't hurt Ngannou. And two days later, he claim AJ just beat an MMA guy.

He changes his opinion every 2 days, expect the same. He is acting as humble, only cause Fury got schooled. Has he won via corruption, he would have been all over the place.

He was extremely toxic for weeks prior to the fight, and i don't want to shame and post all of his posts, as i don't like that.

And there was million more things, that i don't remember anymore.

If you think he is fair and humble, you have no idea with who your chatting too. Just wait and see.

 

Fury was absolutely the ring general in the early rounds. The showboating, the clowning around, and using those tactics to bait Usyk in and land effective one-twos on him. Fury's showmanship in the early rounds and ring generalship is impossible to deny.

 

Except, to make that argument for Fury in 1-3 you have to dismiss the AI as inaccurate rather than incomplete...

Because according to AI, Usyk was clearly the more aggressive in 1 & 3, and slightly more aggressive than Fury in 2 as well... And in pressure terms (ie: ring generalship) Usyk dominated every single round - with the second being clearer than the first or second (approx. 1st 60:40, 2nd 75:25, 3rd 60:40).

It's a bit of a deceptive fight and a tough one to read, in places, hence why the cards from different people with different levels of experience and knowledge mismatched so much - and that's before even mentioning bias!

 

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