Usyk rates his UK opponents

We aren't going to agree on this.

I guess it comes down to how I see things, myself. Having fought in a range of codes from point competition to full contact martial arts, I'm strongly of the opinion that whilst Usyk is very much entitled to his opinion (as you say), he is categorically wrong if he voiced it in this context.

You cannot legitimately claim victory over someone in a different code to the one you beat them under. Taking this situation to the extreme, it is not completely dissimilar to Fury claiming victory over Ngannou in another fighting style.

Though, on introspection I really shouldn't be this bothered by all this. I guess while I take such comments from Fury as a joke, I have far more respect for Usyk, so I find this inclusion of Joyce among the guys he defeated in the pros as disappointing.

It is what it is, I guess.

 

This thread is cute.

 

They shared a ring and were both fighting the other with no head guards in a boxing match, that should be enough to rank someone against other fighters you also shared a ring with does it really matter if it was pro or amateur or something in between

 

Physically sure, he was probably past prime in that sense. But yeah I could agree that his peak performance may well have been in 2020 rather than 2022.

 

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I don't think you'll ever top throwing your opponents belts out of the ring though.

 

Don’t forget the insightful quote from AJ

‘what’s happening in Ukraine is really bad yo’

 

You cite previous experience as a credential for yourself, yet discredit Usyks experience who actually fought them.

WSB wasn't a novice or amateur fight, the only difference was number of rounds fought, and if I'm not mistaken there were titles on the line during the WSB.

 

Oleksandr Usyk saved Tyson Fury's life.

Both will cement each others legacies & both will retire 1-1 in each others arms as the greatest HW fighters of the last 20 years standing next to Lennox.

 

I'm citing experience for what is generally understood about fighting.

As others pointing out it was an olympic champion fighting essentially a guy who very much still an amateur in a semi pro team event many see as a bridge to pro boxing.

If you lot disagree then that is fine. I've expressed my position on it, and explained why

 

This was when AJ was doing his best impression of a slick boxer as opposed to the boxer-puncher he was pre-Ruiz.

 

And Joshua is luke-warm water...