Usyk remains a question mark

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  1. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. banned Full Member

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    Good win of Usyk with a tough Chisora but I dont understand why he didnt finish Chisora in the 7th. At the 6th Chisora was already done imo.

    Dont see him at level of Fury, Joshua and Wilder.
     
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  2. DirtyOldTown

    DirtyOldTown Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He won't be able to live with Fury or Joshua. The size difference is just too great.
     
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  3. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Chisora put it well

    "At heavyweight you can't just box, you have to fight as well"

    Fury will outbox and totally outfight him.

    Losing 4 rounds to a come forward Chisora winging shots. Fury can come forward and will not gas. Will wrestle you and tire you out.
     
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    Maybe not at Joshua and Fury level, but Wilder isn't that good of a boxer. All he has is a huge punch from across the ring.
     
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  5. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Yeah Chisora was spent after he blew his load pretty early. I have no problem with Usyk getting the win he went through hell to get it.
     
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  6. McGrain

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    I think his touches get a little underestimated, some of them are very sharp. Right now I'd pick Joshua, but he doesn't get that fight until 2023, so he has time.
     
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  7. timeout

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    8-4 Usyk win.

    Clinical after first 3rds.

    Tyson just shat his pikey pants.

    who nesh?
     
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  8. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    I think Usyk showed by beating Chisora he's a genuine contender and not a pretender. Chisora is a litmus test at heavy, he beats guys who are not top contenders, so Usyk belongs at heavyweight.

    But that doesn't mean he's ready for Joshua or Fury. I think he'd beat Whyte, Parker, Ortiz etc but Joshua and Fury are on another level and Usyk has to show he can beat a 2m tall super heavy as a pro before people see him as a serious threat to the 2 top guys.
     
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  9. MetalLicker

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    I don't know how Usyk is overrated. He's a former cruiserweight, used to fighting at 200, fighting a 250 lb guy. People need to put that in context... size matter a lot. Power at heavyweight matters a lot, the ability to take it and deliver it.

    Everyone knew that Usyk wasn't a big puncher and that was his biggest weakness at heavyweight.
     
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  10. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. banned Full Member

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    Probably.

    Usyk's technique and class are out of the question but tonight his tactics looked too wait-and-see and defensive with an opponent who at the 6th was done. He had to double the shots more and attack more imo because when he decided to do it the results were very good but he did it a few times tonight and I don't understand why. I also noticed his uppercuts dont seem to hurt a HW. His straights and hooks instead look fast and powerful as in the cruisers and can drop any HW imo.
     
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  11. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    The reality is that youre a mouth breathing moron. You know the circumstances with GGG and Kovalev (corruption/robbery). Loma having a loss against a natural larger Elite fighter is not A bad thing. Usyk is undersized for heavyweight but he can still beat Fury and Joshua. Holyfield would also struggle in the era of Superheavy weights. How many times are you going to bash EE fighters on here and get away with it?
     
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  12. West of Hollywood

    West of Hollywood Active Member Full Member

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    Is Usyk overrated because he isn't a big puncher and is small for a heavyweight?
     
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  13. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    People are making way too much of it. Usyk wasn't spectacular, but basically every heavyweight in history has had that sort of trouble with a Chisora level guy at some point. Fury and Wilder both had more trouble against worse opponents.

    Usyk still clearly won. We'll see, it's not time to write him off.
     
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  14. Braindamage

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    GGG isn't Eastern European. He's Central Asian.
     
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  15. FrankinDallas

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    Wilder's long reach will be a problem for Usyk, who would have real trouble getting close enough to land combinations.
     
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