Usyk says American fighters move their head but not there legs, Is he right?

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  1. ertwin

    ertwin Active Member banned Full Member

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    No its labeled worst hw division in the history out of the narrow american perspective cause no american even came close to be hw champ again and the whole scene went down in europe.
    Cw is very good, was always a very good division. its again that narrow american view on that weight class that americans say it sucks cause americans are not good in it.
    Briedis, Hunter and Mchunu all beat Hws, that already shows you how good those guys are and Usyk is yet to come.
    Middleweight was indeed poor but gggs reign was still very impressive.
    Ahhh and spare me with 2 americans beeing hw champ, Ruiz has an american passport thats it. Other then that the guy is mexican.

    America is not what is used to be and if they want to be at the top of boxing again, they first have to admit the fact that other countries and methods have surpassed them.
     
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  2. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    Ruiz was born and raised in America idiot

    How was klits era good? His best win might be Sam peter.

    Cruiserweight has always been good? Says who? Your telling me my vision is narrow yet your the one saying divisions and eras were good simoly because your people had success in them. Im impressed with a few ee fighters but please point to one that's defeated an elite American or Latino while reigning as champion. I will wait
     
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  3. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    LMAO. Klits era was garbage. Everyone knows it. You just listed a bunch of scrubs who beat other scrubs from that era
     
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  4. ertwin

    ertwin Active Member banned Full Member

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    Dude i am not even eastern european. I dont feel any pride when someone from my country is good.
    I dindnt say that the Klit era was good, but its definitely better then the 80s hw scene were holmes was old and tyson emerged at the end of it. As i said there are so many Cw that did great against heavy weights despite the fact that those are the 2 weight division with the highest gap to one another besides lwh-cw sometimes.
    Kovalev beat ward fair and square, so did ggg canelo if you say anything else then your biased and i am a canelo fan and dont like gg at all.
    Man give me a break, ruiz is always greeting his mexican people he even fought in mexico as a kid. Just face reality he is a mexican living in the USA
     
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  5. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lol I listed the fighters that Fury and Wilder beat.
    I can extend the list: Seferi, Schwartz, Paijic, Shpilka. A very impressive era.
     
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  6. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Gotta agree with you here.
     
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  7. notjustacasual

    notjustacasual Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Brother you are arguing with haters who make up lies and just want to discredit American boxing.

    Their arguments would only make sense if there were Leonard, Jones, Holyfield level American guys around now and guys like Usyk were beating them

    We know that's not the case.

    This era is really weak and it's that way because American boxing is going through a dry spell.
     
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  8. Somali Sanil

    Somali Sanil Wild Buffalo Man banned Full Member

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    Then you stand alone Bandeedo..What about Pirog, he had great foot work, you forgot him !
     
  9. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    i always do. when have you ever seen me seeking anyones approval? plenty of times ive stood alone here, and been absolutely right each time.
    the man aint fought in 6 years. are you really gonna stretch that far to try and save face?
     
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  10. Somali Sanil

    Somali Sanil Wild Buffalo Man banned Full Member

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    He was an ee fighter with great footwork, just because hes retired it doesn't mean he cant be counted, that's you moving the posts a bit
     
  11. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    fine. those 3 fighters prove the eastern euros put out the majority of boxers who know how to use their legs. we got nothing but spaztiks with 2 left feet.
     
  12. Somali Sanil

    Somali Sanil Wild Buffalo Man banned Full Member

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    Bit harsh, but its your opinion and I respect that
     
  13. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    im only comfortable pushing reality onto someone up to a certain point. some things cant be fixed, and i dont care enough even if it could be fixed..
     
  14. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    The greatest movers in boxing have been American, British and Cuban based. EE fighters are much more about holding center ring and turning the angle to remain there. The only exception, regarding headmovement, is Loma and Pirog, one who studied American fighters, and Loma who's style was originally devised off the D'Amato system (combined with Ukrainian training).

    Britain is a weird one as well now. They went from guys like Winstone, McGowan, Buchanan to 'earmuff hut me here' guard.
     
  15. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. banned Full Member

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    Yeah its full of Samuel Peter clones around. Loooool