Usyk says American fighters move their head but not there legs, Is he right?

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  1. DodgySyrup

    DodgySyrup Member Full Member

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    How does Usyk equate his comments with the reality?

    The reality being that, almost without exception, the best fighters in boxing history (across all weight classes) have been American.

    I am not American, and have no need to say anything i don't believe to be true; I simply believe, objectively, that America has a boxing history greater than any.

    As a Brit, despite us having some good fighters over the years, I can freely acknowledge this.

    Anyway, when Eastern Europe has over 100 years of boxing history that has produced elite fighters generation after generation after generation, then they can comment on the flaws in other nations particular style.

    When they produce an Ali, and a Frazier, and a Foreman all at the same time, and a Hagler, and a Sugar Ray (both), and a Floyd Mayweather jnr, and a...i don't think i need go on, you get my point.
     
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  2. BoxingABC1

    BoxingABC1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So because they lost, it means they don’t use more footwork than a typical fighter does? How do you work that one out?
     
  3. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    by watching the fight.
     
  4. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Loma is the most skilled fighter I`ve ever seen and is trained by Usyk`s team and his father, Usyk wasn`t insulting Americans he was talking to them because that`s where he`s fighting, he has been taught a good defensive skill and was making a mild observation, I`m sure he`s impressed by footage of Floyd mate! WTF?
     
  5. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Did you watch the vid at all, it`s moving your legs while slipping.
     
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  6. DodgySyrup

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    That's my point.

    One (or two) exceptional talent(s) doesn't mean they can lecture others.

    Come on, you know it was a dig...and i don't think the Ukrainians are in a position to try and lecture about boxing to American trainers and fighters.

    Sorry, i just don't.
     
  7. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    using your legs is a style that is appropriate in certain fights, but standing in the pocket blocking and slipping is necessary in other fights and much harder to master. great fighter should be able to do both.
    like canelo did in the 2 ggg fights. just to trigger some of you.
     
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  8. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    There have been plenty of American fighters with great footwork, Usyk would know that, it`s not a dig.
     
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  9. BoxingABC1

    BoxingABC1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    yeah....they were talking about moving your feet
     
  10. DodgySyrup

    DodgySyrup Member Full Member

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    Fair enough.
     
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  11. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    While slipping.
     
  12. BoxingABC1

    BoxingABC1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I really don’t get your point. They’re talking about moving your feet...footwork
     
  13. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    TBF Canelo stood in the pocket in the rematch but was picked off and made to miss aswell, both fighters changed their styles however one was suddenly classed as “Mexican style” and the other a “runner” ( which I find ironic coming from Floyd fans or pro Canelo fans especially after Canelos marathon in their first fight)

    What I saw was to true elites able to adapt at any point.
     
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  14. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    Usyk and Lomachenko have the best footwork in boxing at the moment imo.

    People trying to compare US fighters to Ukrainians from a historical achievement perspective needs to know the history of pro boxing in each country and more so the bloody population of each country.
     
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  15. iii

    iii Boxing Addict Full Member

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    ....its all about the slip foot baby...GGG is a master of it when he feels like it. Most use it to avoid getting banged. GGG uses it to get an inch closer & on balance atall times!....No drugs neeeded here when its done properly....
     
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