Usyk Should Be Criticized For Fighting Wilder

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  1. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lopez? Who are you in even talking about? Josesito Lopez? Please. Just back pedal and keep it moving.

    Berto was a fringe contender his entire career. That's why he never had a meaningful moment. In fact, his best moment was getting beat the F up by Ghost Guerrero.
     
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  2. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes Josesito Lopez Is a solid win and Berto won fights after the Mayweather fight beating Ortiz, Alexander.

    A fringe contender doesn't win 7 world title fights you're being ridiculous.
     
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  3. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I didn't think Berto was top 10 ranked anyway going into the Mayweather fight
     
  4. mrbigshot

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    [url]https://talksport.com/boxing/3804992/oleksandr-usyk-egor-mekhontsev/[/url]

    Interesting article , worth a read . Not sure how credible .
     
  5. JacK Rauber

    JacK Rauber Unbourboned by what has been Full Member

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    Wilder always has a chance. The guy had/has real power. Not only that, I would love to see Usyk send him into permanent retirement.
     
  6. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    :lol: A bitter Russian former rival trying to talk himself into a payday who had been boxing 7 years longer than Usyk when they fought

    And the funniest part about it is Usyk was robbed in that fight

    Egor was an excellent amateur but he could only manage a draw vs D level Alexander Johnson and a MD over D level journeyman MD over Gusmyr Perdomo in the pros and then he retired when he realized he wasn't cut out for the pro game.

    “Yes, of course [I would welcome a pro fight]," Mekhonstev added.

    "My old teammates still send me some videos from time to time and ask: 'Egor, do you still think you would tear all of them apart?

    “And I tell them: ‘You know, I still think so.’

    :risas3:

    Imagine if Usyk fought to a draw with Alexander Johnson and a MD over Gusmyr Perdomo :facepalm:
     
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  7. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Make a thread. Nobody believes what you're saying, not even you lmao
     
  8. ruffryders

    ruffryders Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Fury usually needs dragging to the ring
     
  9. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Why would I make a thread ? Tell me exactly what I've said above that isn't true ?

    Berto was clearly better than a fringe contender he was a belt holder who won 7 world title fights.

    Berto's form coming into the Mayweather fight wasn't the best just like Wilder.

    But Berto had a solid win over Lopez prior to the Mayweather fight that made him the WBA number 1 contender. Berto also had some solid wins after the Mayweather fight beating Ortiz, Alexander.

    My argument is despite Berto not being a great fight by any means. Was better than the Wilder fight who is 40 years old totally shot, 2-4 in his last 6 fights, and he didn't win a single round vs the last 2 world class Heavyweights he fought in Parker, Zhang.

    And I don't see that you've done anything to disprove what I've said above.

    If this is Usyk's last fight then I can overlook the Wilder fight. But if he has intentions of fighting other top contenders then I'm not a fan of pointless fights since Usyk isn't that active to begin with.
     
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  10. Jab in the Face

    Jab in the Face Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Its a odd choice imo because Wilder has a punchers chance and it would screw his legacy completely if Wilder gets a lucky punch and he has a loss against a washed Wilder
     
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  11. ikrasevic

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    Puncher always Has a chance.
    Wilder chance to win od 0,001%
     
  12. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I think Dave ''The White Rhino'' Allen and Duke McKenzie, MBE, sum it up

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    And when you're fighting a devastating puncher who has knocked out 43 of their 44 victims, with a KO 97%, and murderous one punch power it's not like it doesn't come with risk, let alone at 39 y/o and you're a fighter who relies on speed, reflexes, movement and reaction times

    The Dosser losses came against fighters who were way heavier than him

    Big Bang just under 70lbs
    Belly about 40lbs
    J-Park 30-ish

    He's never lost to a small or similar sized HW
     
  13. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Is it possible lack of public interest will prevent this matchup from happening. I don't think Wilder is even top 10 ranked
     
  14. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    None of Bertos "7 world title fights" were versus world level competition. They were versus fringe contenders. Berto himself was of that cloth. Thats no knock on him as a person, but as a professional WW he was completely irrelevant and lost every meaningful fight he was ever in.

    Wilder was at least meaningful in his prime. Berto was never that.
     
  15. SouthpawsRule

    SouthpawsRule Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wilder isn’t the same guy anymore man, he got 12-0’d by Parker who lost to Wardley, absolutely flattened on the ground like a pancake by Zhang and his win is stopping a literal nobody in 7 rounds.

    Styles don’t matter, Wilder does not deserve a title shot with the things that went down in his latest ring appearances, and Usyk should absolutely be criticized if he fights him when guys like Wardley are laying around.