Usyk Should Be Criticized For Fighting Wilder

Although Usyk will outbox Wilder, fighting him isn’t exactly like fighting Jake Paul and a walk in the park. I think Wilder still has more of a puncher’s chance than Zhang or Parker even though he lost to them. If Usyk wanted the money without the risk he should be fighting one of the Paul brothers instead.

 

Can't believe there's so much butthurt if he does or not...i don't think Usyk is GOAT (i don't think even HE thinks he is) but dude has earned a couple of gimmes for some cashamoney if he wants em'...why all the hand wringing?

 

You make good points. Difference now is a guy makes 10x the money so only needs 1 fight a year to be rich. Ali had an entourage as well. Yes we'd all rather see the champs fight 3 to 4 times a year but those days are gone.

 

Very true. But I, like many others, believe that Usyk will nullify Wilders right hand. After that Wilder has nothing for Usyk, but Wilder is always a dangerous puncher.

 

It's a disgrace that Wilder gets this payday, but Usyk is quite disgraceful lately. I doubt his Cossack forefathers would approve of plenty of things he's doing.

He should retire and go help some Ukrainians or Russians improve their lives, instead of AJ's and Deontayz.

 

I was hoping for a Parker showdown ... but that fight has been derailed.

Wardley doesn't really excite me.

Wilder is past his best but he's about the same age as Usyk. This fight would have been awesome a few years ago. I guess it is just 'OK' right now.

Usyk ought to mop him up but you never know with Wilder.

If Wilder gets lucky and lands a nuke the forum will explode.

 

And Usyk is 38.

 

I doubt Dubois first time around (2023) was rated by anyone here, in top 10, never mind top 5.
He was regarded as a 'soft' but 'mandatory' challenger.
He gained legitimacy when he beat Hrgovic and Joshua.

 

Usyk said he wants to fight Jake Paul in the Octagon. An he's been seen in Thailand in his recent videos. Is he secretly training Muay Thai/MMA in his current absence? Possibly for future showfights...

 

I see it kind of similarly with a greater focus on the beginning of your post.

A short while ago the irrational voices were the ones not giving usyk his due, denying his atg standing, playing down his accomplishments and the challenges he took to get where he ended up.

Now I see a lot of irrationality defending the Wilder choice or trying to play him up as something he no longer is or never was.

It's the same old story each time, people need a while (and probably a lot of social media) to start to identify with a dominant fighter and when they do they defend everything he does...

Wilder is a bad choice of opponent. And @Serge you're absolutely right, that Ali and Louis and Holmes etc had lots of worse opponents. Usyk has had no soft touches this far (I don't count his first heavyweight match) and that's unique on this level as far as I know. We only have to look as far as Fury to see him choosing wallin and chisora 3 and ngannou in his prime (seferi and pianeta were okay for me, when he was grossly out of shape, dealing with mental struggled and just getting back in a historic achievement). And fury even struggled in these cherry pick fights. No way are we seeing usyk struggle against wilder!

But I have to say he should lose belts with this way and quickly. I don't want soft touches for unified Champions. We have to see the challengers waiting and what it does to the division. Don't we want to see great fights instead of gushing over identifying ourselves with a dominant champion?

If he doesn't fight wardley it's correct that the belt goes to wardley. If he doesn't fight kabayel, his next fight should be for the belt. Etc.

I will be annoyed, if usyk can just have bad opponents in between and then fight for the belt he gave up to reunify into "3 time undisputed" ("oooh this has never been done and will never be done again " - every media Idiot)

And i would hate it all the same if fury, joshua, ali, lewis or anyone else was allowed to have their way like this. (See my opinions on canelo...)

 

People saying he deserves a "gimme".
But Wilder in 2026 is so far below the standard of a regular "gimme". It's not acceptable.

Usyk was already given an easy 'mandatory' in 2023 when he faced Dubois, who no one except the WBA regarded as a top heavyweight. He also was lucky to squeeze TWO fights out of a Fury who could barely get past Ngannou.
The Dubois rematch was legit because Dubois had defeated Hrgovic and Joshua, but it was still the easier option than Parker, because Usyk had already figured Dubois out easily.

If Usyk isn't shot himself, Wardley should be the 'gimme', or Parker or even old man Zhang coming off losses now.
Or anyone who isn't 40+ AND shot to pieces like Wilder is.

 

Fury was only criticized because of the games he played with Usyk before fighting Chisora. Remember? Fury was acting like he was serious about fighting Usyk then fought Chisora and then Ngannou. That's why people talked ****.

 

I love how you absolutely hate Wilder’s guts. I always find your judgement towards him hilarious even though it is absolutely correct.

Its crazy that the illusion Wilder’s team created has basically somehow “given” him the shot at undisputed basically.

As if the Bronze Bomber is the new Italian Stallion in the sense of pure luck with the champion giving him an undeserved opportunity.