Usyk signing means really bad news for Wilder and is fans

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  1. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So, Eddie Hearn has signed Oleksandr Usyk for a three-fight co-promotional deal with K2 Promotions. Why only three? Because Usyk contract with K2 will end on September 25, 2019. And then Hearn will sign Usyk to become his only promoter.

    Usyk will be ranked very highly in WBC straight away once he move to the HW division. I think Hearn will try to make his first fight in the HW a WBC title eliminator. Once Usyk is Wilder's mandatory challenger, Hearn has more options to put pressure on Wilder and his team in negotiations process. Usyk might well be even more dangerous opponent for Wilder than Joshua is. Remember how poor Wilder looked against southpaw Artur Szpilka, who has the same height as Usyk, but doesn't have even 20% of his talent, variety, skills and boxing IQ.

    Wilder will be put between the rock and the hard place and he will either have to agree a smaller % against AJ or smaller money against Usyk.

    Of course, Wilder has unbeliveable power, and he has an ability to KO ANYBODY if he lands his huge right hand. But from now he will be in the dangerous fights. He actually already fought one very dangerous opponent this year and deserves all the credit for it. Hopefully he will fight and beat) Tyson Fury next and then Usyk with the winner facing Anthony Joshua in $100+ million fight.
     
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  2. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    While I agree Usyk would be a very difficult opponent for Wilder I think your misjudging the situation. The WBC is very pro US, no chance they allow Usyk to become mandatory, look how they froze out Tyson Fury and now Whyte. While at the same time allowing Arreola a 2nd shot by facing a guy he already lost to in Stiverne, then allowing Stiverne be mandatory by simply beating a journeymen then not fighting for ages. Then you have Molina and Breazeale as an eliminator shutting out Whyte. Unless Hearn starts dishing out bribes by the bag full none of his fighters are facing Wilder as mandatory any time soon.
     
  3. nurological

    nurological Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The fans will put enormous pressure on them to deliver AJ v Wilder/Fury winner. That fight has to happen.
     
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  4. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Stiverne became mandatory by default when Povektin came up dirty for Peds the second time. The WBC's plan was to feed Povetkin the remains of Stiverne so he could earn back his mandatory status to Wilder.

    They had no idea dummy Povetkin would go and juice himself up again.. lol
     
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  5. IKSAB

    IKSAB Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Usyk is more of a threat to Wilder than Joshua? :cbiggrin:

    Juiceyk is gonna get stomped at HW, Hearn will probably feed him to Whyte before he gets anywhere near one of the champs.
     
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  6. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If Usyk wants the wilder fight all he has to do is beat a couple ranked guys in the WBC. I garuntee you that Usyk won’t have felt powers like Wilder and unlike Gassiev Wilder has faster feet. I got AJ and Wilder beating Usyk due to power and size. I think Usyk beats the rest, the Ortiz fight is very competitive though.
     
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  7. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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    I think he should become the number one challenger. That should do the trick.
     
  8. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Getting Wilder to actually fight a relevant top guy is like asking a non fit skinny person to lace a giant rope around his waist and pull a mini tractor.

    You wont see Usyk vs Wilder bc in two years time either Wilder will have lost to Joshua or Fury( next) pick one.

    Usyk himself wants the better bigger fight in Joshua,hes not waiting for Wilder which takes YEARS ..lol
     
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  9. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Exactly I’m with that, that’s a fight I would love to see, even though I think Wilder catches him late, if Usyk wins I ain’t gunna complain.
     
  10. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    True, if Usyk was gonna go the easier WBC path to a heavyweight title he would of signed with Haymon instead of Hearn, just like Ortiz did. He clearly wants to fight "The Man" in the division which is Joshua.
     
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  11. Sergey Shubenkov

    Sergey Shubenkov Remember banned Full Member

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    Yep it does literally take YEARS. Many years of Povetkins career were wasted chasing him. Dillian Whyte has waited about 2 years at least and is ready to give up, Joshua 1 year. The WBC are like his co promoters - protecting him.
     
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  12. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It makes sense to go after AJ because he has all those belts and mandatories, and eventually he gets stripped or bounced and there will be an opening for Usyk.
     
  13. deyell

    deyell MOLECULE FROM HELL. Full Member

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    In your dreams 5 percenter.
     
  14. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Yeah, and once the fight is penned, Usyk quickly becomes a blown up cruiser weight by all the Wilder haters. Next!
     
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  15. Scissors

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    Why are you hopeful that two men you’ve never met are going to earn 100mil +.