Usyk stoppage 6/1

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  1. Punchdrunk1

    Punchdrunk1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Usyk had Joshua hurt in first fight and think he could have stopped him had he really gone for it.
     
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  2. keysey

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    nah think fury is favourite but only slightly to be fair, like a bet but would never lump any boxing match due to some of the dodgy decisions over the years.
     
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    He threw the kitchen sink in rd12 and couldn’t get it done but then again, hearn did stop the clock early
     
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    Punchdrunk1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think he could have pushed more if he wanted to.
    I was gutted as I had Usyk to win in rounds 9-12. Would have have a very nice return
     
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  5. Justchris17

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    He can’t be judged on wilder fights cause wilder hasn’t fought anyone of note literally still don’t know how good he actually is
     
  6. Beale

    Beale Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Your entitled to your opinion but need to watch more boxing if you don't know how good Wilder is by now.

    If you don't rate anything about him fair enough but he has World Class Power, a Champion's mindset and desire with no quit in him.

    Boxing skills not so good but I would not miss one of his fights.
     
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    World class power yes, champions mindset really? The guy who claimed cheat and blamed his walkout suit and had a mental breakdown? What are you basing how good he is on?
     
  8. Beale

    Beale Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You claim he does not possess the mindset of a Champion?

    Fought like a warrior outside the ring, after being battered in the Fury 2 fight, to ensure there was a 3rd fight and fought like a warrior in the ring until stopped in the Fury 3 fight.

    Compare this to Joshua v Ruiz in New York.

    Read my post above again.
     
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  9. RoughD

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    John fury comments about Tyson today make this even better value
     
  10. lepinthehood

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    He didnt stop AJ, should off really. Uysk doesnt go for the absolute kill, Fury big enough to lay on top if dropped. Assuming Fury comes in at his best. If he comes in fat and disinterested, Uysk can stop him. After the weigh ins.
     
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    I did read your post again and I did throughly the first time all you said was “World Class Power, a Champion's mindset and desire with no quit in him.” in reality all that is world class power and what majority of people just call ‘heart’.

    you also said if I don’t know how good wilder is by now? By now why by now what’s he done in almost the last 4 years to justify “by now” apart from draw with fury and get smashed twice? Fury is the only ‘top’ fighter he has fought and he lost. He has avoided the rest and only fought fury cause he thought he would be a good name and assumed he was finished after the 10 stone weight gain and inactivity so a cherry pick gone wrong. The pursuit of other fights were because he was totally convinced he was cheated had a mental breakdown over it because he genuinely believed his hype and thought the only way he could lose is to be cheated… delusion. Literally the worst resume for a defending champion (closely followed by fury) it was embarrassing he even avoided his mandatory (whyte)
    for over 1000 days while fighting others haha champion mindset don’t make me laugh.
     
  12. Beale

    Beale Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yet Eddie Hearn finally admitted yesterday that the £50m offer was true and Joshua ducked Wilder!!!!!!
     
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    And then forced a rematch - going to arbitration to make sure of it - and flattened the champion twice in a classic before getting slept. I wasn't a massive Wilder fan before that night but you can't deny he has some guts.
     
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    I struggle to see Usyk stopping Fury considering Wilder couldn't do it. I think his only real chance is on points. If anyone is gets stopped it will be Usyk.
     
  15. Bob Flaps

    Bob Flaps Boxing Addict Full Member

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    On other tosses of the refereeing coin, Fury loses the first Wilder fight by KO and to Wallin on cuts - and that's before mentioning McDermott or Ngannou. Equally Usyk could have been in deep trouble with Dubois if the ref had said 'fair punch' and his scrap with Chisora wasn't entirely convincing. Either way, the results stand but questions remain.

    Minor edit - given the above, you can't doubt either fighter's guts. Usyk's fightback against AJ in rounds 9-10 of the 2nd fight, Fury getting off the canvas more than once - that's partly what makes it more intriguing. Maybe fading but won't go away. You can say the same of Wilder now. AJ?
     
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