Usyk talking about moving back down to cruiser

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  1. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    Its the best indication that we have. Nor has Usyk any kind of stamina problem, so yeah, its a good indicator.
     
  2. navigator

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    Perhaps. But it still shouldn't be cited as if it were a definitive professional victory that negates any need to see them in an actual professional encounter, whether we think Usyk would emerge victorious from such a bout or not. Because, well, it isn't and it doesn't.
     
  3. catchwtboxing

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    Which was never the question. What I was responding to...

    "Maybe he doesn’t see himself beating 3 huge monsters in Fury, Wilder and Joyce. Biting off more than he can chew."

    Of course he sees himself beating Joyce. He already has.
     
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    The poster obviously meant that he may not see himself beating those three in succession at this stage of his career.

    Regardless, your post comes off very much like you were trying to pass that WSB win off as a box ticked on Usyk's ledger. :lol:
     
  5. Entaowed

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    So what? That is not in dispute, which in no way is suggestive that he often or *ever* used PEDs.
    It is tough for many ordinary folks & athletes to keep on weight for metabolic & food comsumption reasons.
    Think it is at all more likely that someone like Bob Foster ever used PEDs because he had trouble gaining weight?

    You could as easily argue that if it is hard to keep on weight that suggests he does not or never did used PEDs.
    Since presumably any effective steroid & HGH & enabling substances make it much easier to gain weight.

    None of it, & nothing in his past, suggests he likely used PEDs.
    Now he might; you & I might be a wife beater, tax cheat, closet racist, alcoholic...

    But it is like saying because we are certain demographic associated with a crimes-like say male-& we make some broad statement like we are work out hard or are tired of doing so, that we likely did something nefarious.

    It just is not fair-& does not make logical sense.
     
  6. catchwtboxing

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    What I said is as true now as when I said it. Joyce has nothing to do with what Usyk is talking about, Usyk has already beaten Joyce.
     
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    Could well be he doesn't. The guy was speculating.


    But not in a legitimate professional bout, nor as part of a Wilder-Fury-Joyce run, which is the point the other guy was making.

    Can't pass that WSB stuff off as the real deal, however much one may like to.
     
  8. It's Ovah

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    Wilder's no monster.
     
  9. senpai

    senpai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Once in the interview Usyk said that he will play games, just like Fury. I think this is one of the games that he thinks he needs to play
     
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  10. FastLeft

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    no you do not need steroids to be 220 at 6'3
    but he is saying the weight is too much for him
     
  11. FastLeft

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    I have not accused him of crime

    look. 90% of the top boxers use steroids.
    I believe Usyk uses.
    nothing to get too concern about
     
  12. Entaowed

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    You did not really argue against anything I said.
    Using PEDs is a crime-& a violation of the rules.
    You have offered *no* actual arguments that Usyk used.
    No evidence, nothing even that can be rationally called suspicious.
    Not showing that it is even that it is likely.

    You are offering only unsupported premises; saying 90% of top boxers use steroids is a faith based non-argument.
    Why not 5%? 99.5%?

    You have no idea.
    But it is wrong to accuse Using based upon nothing.
    Even if he was not an extremely tough competitor, an ATG with over 350 fights & a good guy in supporting his country-And the way he conducts himself in his daily life.
     
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  13. Floyd #1

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    Incoming Fury rant on Instagram that starts with "USYK! Middleweight!" any second now.
     
  14. box33

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    Fury just did another interview insinuating that Usyk is using steroids & needs time to cycle, ironic coming from him.
     
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  15. catchwtboxing

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    Its a bout with no headgear and regular sized gloves. It is an excellent indicator that Usyk is the better man.