Usyk talking about moving back down to cruiser

He would be compared to pillow fisted Usyk. You think Usyk would be able to knock down Fury the way Wilder did 4 times?

 

Yes.

 

Sorry but he couldn't do it to Joshua in 24 rounds, what makes you think he can do it to Fury, who's a slicker boxer than Joshua?

 

It's an indicator, but not an infallible one. It's not by any means the championship gauntlet, nor does it account for what either man has in his locker as a seasoned professional.

 

Indeed.

At the time Joyce had 6 years boxing experience, now he has 15.

Usyk had 10, now he has 20.

So in proportional and absolute terms the gap has narrowed significantly.

Joyce was 238 lbs in 2013, he's 271 lbs and fully physically mature now. Usyk was 212 lbs, now he's 221 lbs. That could be significant.

Joyce has had far fewer amateur and pro rounds than Usyk, came to boxing 7 years later and seems fresher.

12 oz gloves in the WSB, 10 oz gloves in the pros.

And critically, 12 rounds vs 5.

 

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omg a complacent Fury walking at Steven Cunningham hands down got hit by his best overhand right early in a fight, proceeded to get hit again with his best left hook right hand and it bounced off him, the light hitting Usyk is going to kill Fury! OH NO!

Fury is not concerned one bit about Usyk's power, nor is Usyk concerned about Fury's

Fury is concerned about a leprechaun running around for 12 rounds edging a decision

Usyk is concerned about a giant crushing him under his man tits OR running round like an oversized leprechaun edging a decision

 

"If battleship knocked Fury down, Dr. Steelhammer will definitely knock him out"

"Fury got lucky. If battleship knocked Fury down, The Bronze Bomber will definitely knock him out"

And now...

"Fury's got lucky four times. If battleship knocked Fury down, another featherfisted cruiser will definitely knock him out"

etc.

 

No, you're acting as if there's no call for Usyk to face Joyce as a professional because that box is already checked, when it really isn't.

 

Except that's not quite what he said, as I've already noted;

Here's what he actually said;

No, you said it was an excellent indicator. I agreed that it is an indicator, but added that it isn't an infallible one and that it isn't tantamount to a definitive (i.e. professional) victory over Joyce, which, let's face it, is what you were implying it is.

It's a public conversation that anyone can join.

The conceit that Usyk's WSB win over Joyce carries over into the pros came entirely from your mind.

You're just irked because I rumbled your game. You're not low.

Could be I read them better than you did. You keep misquoting @SergioJ91, after all.

 

Wrong, I'm addressing your conceit. And correcting you on your misquoting of @SergioJ91, of course.

It's not my fault Usyk lacks a professional victory over Joe Joyce for you to boast about, leaving you to resort to citing the WSB.