Usyk v Deontay Wilder, who ya got?

What a way to get emotional. I said all along that Usyk would easily win the tournament and he easily did. But, like every fighter he has flaws that can be expolited when he's fighting another elite fighter. Briedis and Gassiev while being good fighters are not elite while both Joshua and Wilder are. Usyk would easily be a top 10 heavyweight and maybe even a top 5 heavyweight, but that's not same as me believing he would beat all of the top 5 heavyweights.

1. Wilder - He would give Wilder a tough fight, but Wilder hits harder and is more experienced than any fighter Usyk's faced in his pro career. Also, nobody at cruiserweight has Wilder's gas tank or patience. 70/30 Wilder.

2. Joshua - I could see Joshua missing a lot of shots, but Joshua has a better IQ than anyone Usyk's faced as a pro. Joshua unlike Gassiev won't keep falling for same 1-2 and counters. I also have a hard time seeing Joshua allowing Usyk to set the pace of the fight. Usyk was able to keep Gassiev on his back foot most of the time. Against Joshua Usyk would be the one backing up. I wonder how well Usyk's stamina will hold up if Joshua keeps him on the back foot all night. 70/30 Joshua.

3. Ortiz - Both are southpaws and would offer challenges to each other. However, Usyk is vulnerable to right hooks and uppercuts while Ortiz tends to fade really badly after 6 or 7 rounds. 50/50

4. Povetkin - Povetkin can be timed with quick jabs and outboxed in the middle of the ring, but Usyk tends to leave his body open too much and I can see Povetkin crowding Usyk most of the fight. Nobody at cruiserweight had the skill, heart, and chin to crowd Usyk, but Povetkin does. 50/50

5. Parker - Parker has Quick hands and a strong chin. However, Parker's footwork isn't that great and will put him at a disadvantage against Usyk, who has the speed and timing to make Parker waste a lot of energy. If Parker had any kind of power I'd say 50/50, but he doesn't.
60/40 Usyk

 

Well I see it like this

Wilder - 95/05 Usyk
Joshua - 85/15 Usyk
Parker - 100/0 Usyk
Povetkin - 90/10 Usyk
Ortiz - 95/05 Usyk
T Fury - 70/30 Usyk

 

Washington was the opponent which least fitted my argument......But unlike guys like yourself, I take into account facts which both agree with, and weaken my argument.

If you're another one of those guys who honestly believes that Wilder loses rounds on purpose, to 'set traps', then you're complete foolish.


Being taken to 12 by Stiverne with a messed up face is not a 'choice'.
Getting put on the ropes for a whole round against Ortiz is not a 'choice'.

Getting outboxed and taken 8/9/10 rounds by slow, unskilled, out of shape HW's is not a 'choice'.

If Ortiz, Arreola, Szpilka etc can take you into the last third of a fight....Usyk can comfortably take you 12.

 

I criticised Usyk for not having enough power to compete with the big heavyweights, but Wilder is definitely a heavyweight Usyk can beat. Usyk has the skills to run rings around Wilder and give him a boxing lesson, and Wilder doesn't have the skills to neutralize him.

 

I have no ****in' clue what that back peddling nonsense is meant to mean bud. Basically you say counter intuitive **** to be inclusive? I get that it's twitter gen and no one can be bothered to read or write beyond a hundred characters but unless you bother to connect your **** into something coherent it just seems like shade thrown for the sake of throwing shade and hoping something sticks.

Another one of those fools? No son, I originated the perspective as far as fans are concerned. I go by Glaukos for a reason, the form has existed since at least 540 BC. Maybe instead of running your mouth about **** you don't understand you give understanding a go. That's not just how Wilder KOs people. That is how all late comers with natural big punches overcome the years of pedigree training they missed out on. Always has been, literally always.

Think about the **** you say son. You made a good point, not true but at least good given most boxing fans know dick about technique or history, then you went right back to shooting yourself in the foot. Stiverne proves Szpilka got baited. Unless you're going to claim Wilder made an adjustment or Artur made an adjustment that fight from beginning to end is Wilder hunting a KO. Against Bermane for the title Wilder gave up on the KO early and went to points boxing.

Made one adjustment his whole career but all them KOs came with a struggle did they? You sure you know the basics of KO boxing? You need to get you a Mexican friend.

Ortiz was the only one who surprised Wilder, he's the only one Wilder went for the KO from beginning to end and got hurt while doing it. Everyone else pats themselves on the ass for the taps they landed while sticking their face into the kill zone. Artur he did well....sure pal...I mean he went snoozing pretty damn hard on the canvas but he made those rounds. Like how Mormeck forced Wlad into rounds instead of Wlad knocking him out in the first right? If Mormeck takes you four why did Pulev get KO'd in five? Mormeck is that close to Pulev in talent? Those fights were similar? Just some bull**** to say that throws shade at Wlad and doesn't actually attest to any skills one way or another?

I still don't believe it. I don't believe you really believe the **** you say.

 

Deontay is too big and powerful. KO by Wilder.

 

Interesting fight. Wilder has near zero boxing skills but way above average power, whereas Usyk has way above average boxing skills and not great power (probably below average if he were a HW). I like Wilder in match up's against most HW's out there, but I think that even if Usyk did step up he'd handle Wilder. Too much skills, but more important - he'd be too crafty (knowing where to move in order to avoid power and land clean shots). I just think its unlikely Wilder keeps steamrolling through competition and not being able to box. At some point he meets a guy who he won't knock out, and who would make him look silly. I'd bet on that guy being Usyk. I do think Fury KO's Wilder if they fight, and I'd expect that would happen before Usyk would get the chance to ever fight Wilder.

 

Wilder by decapitation

 

Usyk... Easy UD. 12-0.

 

As much as i rip in to Wilder cuz its really fun i have to say i feel Wilder beats Uysk. Wilder must surely hold a large reach advantage and Uysk will have to work a hell of alot harder to get into range than it will for Wilder to get out of it and with Wilders power and fast hands he can throw his best shots in relative safety. Obviously when Uysk gets into range he is guna be doing all the point scoring but my gut feeling is Wilders reach will be the big difference.

Id say the same about Uysk Joshua too. The Ukranian is without doubt the much better boxer of AJ or Wilder but those 2 are good enough to actually make their physical advantages count. But then i have seen some videos of Uysk in with some good big men and he did well.

 

Wilder KO he hits too hard and Usyk is unproven at HW. If Usyk fights at HW and beats someone like Ortiz then I might change my pick but until then I got Wilder.

 

And they all got KTFO...

 

Wilder's unpredictable/unconventional style mixed with his extreme athletic talents would be a huge problem. Wilder KO9.

 

Of course you do since you are U's hype man/publicist. I'm very feel that you are too biased.

 

And Szpilka? How do you explain that one?