Usyk v Joshua 2 Fight Agreed

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  1. aaaaa

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  2. sauhund II

    sauhund II Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You guys live in dreamland as far as the Bodybuilder is concerned.............boxing is 80 % mental and 20% physical and AJ's mental capacity is shot beyond shot, he aint got it in him..............his entire resume is filled with absolute never were old puddings of the worst kind and that includes that obese midget Ruiz..............you come to win and AJ chokes, end of.
     
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  3. UKboxingfan

    UKboxingfan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why didn’t Bob suggest that for the AJ - Fury undisputed fight?
     
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  4. Twentyman

    Twentyman You dog nonce! banned Full Member

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    I can see Joshua employing someone for his camp solely focused on teaching him the naughty stuff like roughing his opponent up on the inside, spoiling, tying up etc. I think it will be a case of them believing that what is needed is a few tweaks rather than a complete style change like the Ruiz rematch.

    Usyk is very adaptable but Chisora showed that you can make him uncomfortable for a few rounds by mauling him. This to me is Joshua's biggest chance of landing the big shot.
     
  5. chico g

    chico g Let's watch some Sesame Street...lmao Full Member

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    I was genuinely scared for Joshua in the Ruiz rematch. Because he took a proper beating in the first fight, and he could have got seriously hurt in there against fatso. Usyk presents a different problem, but I don't think he's as dangerous as Ruiz early on, and can be knocked out if Joshua can get to him.
     
  6. Gatekeeper

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    But to land those shots he has to close the distance and Usyk is sharpshooter, AJ is as upright and stiff as they come. Saturday he was getting picked off at long range and still being hurt by a CW imagine how he'll react to walking onto harder punches at close range that he won't see coming.
    Fury could pull those type of tactics maybe but no way AJ and when you add in his fragile mentality, if I was part of AJ's team I'd pleading with him to take a couple of easy tune up/comeback fights to rebuild his confidence and try out new things rather than walking straight back into the lions den.
     
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  7. chico g

    chico g Let's watch some Sesame Street...lmao Full Member

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    There's no guarantee that the Usyk or Fury fights will still be there for him if he goes that route, could be frozen out like Dillian Whyte, eliminator after eliminator. Both of them could be retired by then. Or an even worse scenario in my opinion would be coming up against a Joe Joyce, or Hrgovic type mandatory. Joshua has knocked out Wlad Povetkin and Whyte at heavier weights, so it not out of the realms of possibilities. I'm of the opinion, that if Joshua can't overcome a cruiserweight, who's never knocked down a heavyweight. Then maybe he should retire if his punch resistance is deteriating. It's only gonna get harder from here on. Who knows who could be in position to challenge for a title belt, 2 tune up fights for Joshua is like 12 months away. Lot of things happen, and he isn't exactly a spring chicken. Usyk is actually a little bit older than him too?
     
  8. sauhund II

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    He almost got stopped by the ghost of WK.......Povetkin was always a pure hype job who never ever won a meaningful fight and every single time he stepped up he lost............Whyte is a walking Heavybag who struggles against even no hopers...........IMO opinion AJ is not a born fighter, its like a job to him...................he spit his mouth piece out and quit against a obese light punching Nobody.......that tells you everything.
     
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  9. bbjc

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    Defo agree usyk v the winner of fury/wilder. In a perfect world that would be fury. Give usyk the chance to leave the game the right way...one last fight win lose or draw. He beat joshua fair and square. Now time for joshua to give an oppertunity to joyce etc. No one cares for the belts. Whats the point really if its all about who has the best promoter and you cant get a shot at them or even a fair shot unless you,ve got the right promoter. Probably why joshua turns up not that fussed to win cause he knows hes got another shot at it.

    Wilder the same...shouldnt even be fighting fury again...was comprehensively beaten. Should be made to fight a couple of guys like whyte/parker/chisora/joyce/hrgovic/ruiz/ortiz. To earn another shot at it and keep the heavyweight division moving letting the other guys fight for it when their still a decent age.
     
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  10. ButeTheBeast

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    Funny how the Matchroom fanboys aren't calling for Joshua to step aside for a Fury-Usyk unification.

    They were all calling on Wilder to do the same for Fury-AJ.
     
  11. hobby rider

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    Wilder didn’t step aside and Arum and Fury strung them along all summer so why should they call for Joshua to step aside to help them out?
     
  12. Hattonmad

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    AJ isn't outboxing Usyk in a million years so there's only one way to beat him - throw the kitchen sink at him early.

    My advice would be come in heavy, work the body first 3/4 rounds and then go full kamikaze round 5/6.

    Usyk likely survives and takes a gassed AJ out but its not impossible for AJ to stop him using these tactics. It's his only hope. Usyk admitted really feeling the shots AJ landed to the head and body.
     
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  13. coolcat45

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    The one thing i noticed was that usyk did not like those bodyshots, he was almost jumping back from them. Maybe that is a viable tactic but leaves him open.
     
  14. Mitch87

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    Agreed. AJ's best shot was probably the big uppercut he landed to the body.
     
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  15. unfriendlyorchid

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    I like them too.

    I think we have to bear in mind though that we see them when they're the away team in a lucrative fight, so we see them on their best behaviour. Krassyuk was very very gracious towards Eddie and AJ in the pre-fight press conference, for example.

    We saw a much harder approach towards Joe Joyce though when the undisputed fight was looking likely. Basically, a fight they didn't need to risk the mandatory position against a non-lucrative opponent. They publicly put out there that Usyk deserved a 93/7 split based on their respective recent purses - basically playing the same tricks Hearn, Arum et al play to delay negotiations and hope the undisputed falls through.

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    Of course they were trying to force the AJ fight through - and history has proved their tactics flawless. But shows that there is more to them than what we see during PPV fight weeks in the UK.