Usyk v Wilder

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  1. Gregjam

    Gregjam New Member Full Member

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    This matchup never seems to be muted, why?
     
  2. BlackDog

    BlackDog Active Member Full Member

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    What You mean?
    When Usyk became top 1 in the Hw Wilder was just hard beaten dude without belts.
    There is no reason for Usyk to be interested in this fight special when he got full unification possibility.

    But if this happend 95% chance is that Wilder will be looked in that fight like total bum and probably will lose 12-0.
    Usyk is style nightmare for Deontay.

    I can belive that in 10 fights with Usyk Wilder can win 1 time but probably we will never even have chance to watch them together in the ring.
     
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  3. 007 373 5963

    007 373 5963 Active Member Full Member

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    I'd love to see Wilder vs Usyk, but Wilder pisses me off at this point. Wilder will have sat out for 18 months by the time he finally fights again. This level of inactivity shouldn't be tolerated, especially when it is done by someone who expects to be given big money fights and title fights.

    Frankly, i'm glad Fury got humbled by Ngannou. Serves him right for wasting everyone's time, first by teasing a unification bout, then basically taking a year off only to return to fight a non boxer.
     
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  4. kiwi_boxer

    kiwi_boxer nighty night, ellerbe ☠ ☠ ☠ banned Full Member

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    Wilder knows it and wants nothing to do with the best boxer in the division. Hell, Wilder had 3 attempts to be the Ngannou version of Fury (admittedly, Fury was much better in the 2nd fight) and got beaten from pillar to post in the process.

    Usyk hits harder than Fury. From Wilders own mouth "Fury is pillow fisted, he ain't got no power" and yet, Wilder got the **** beat out of him.

    Usyk comes out like he did against AJ and stops Bambi in one round.
     
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  5. mrbigshot

    mrbigshot Active Member Full Member

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    I have another opinion .

    I think usyk would with a high probability be knocked out by wilder and usyk knows it .

    Usyk needs opponents who try to box technically with usyk . Here usyk can use his superb skills and score points for a decision .

    But superb skills only will not help usyk when wilder goes lunatic and windmills him without care about style and clean technics .

    I do not think usyk can absorb wilders bombs since his body is build for cruiser not heavy . He would also not be superior in clinching wilder .

    I guess usyk knows it and thats why he refused to take wilder for a mandatory fight and has choosen dubois as the less dangerous guy .

    A fight with dubois was low award / low pay . A fight with wilder would be a blockbuster with a massive purse and of course massive respect when he would beat wilder . And wilder was willing to face usyk

    Usyk refused this all and went dubois. What else can be the reason than usyk himself feared to loose against wilder ?
     
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  6. BlackDog

    BlackDog Active Member Full Member

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    WTH?
    Did You watch Wilder vs Szpilka fight? I know it was long time ago but there was nice example how Wilder looks with southpaw, pretty quick guy who can move a little. He got big problem to find his space for right hand and even lost some rounds.
    Off course end of the day he "kill" Artur but...
    1. Szpilka know he dont get decision fighting like that and he try "attack". That's when he come to this brutal right hand.
    2. Szpilka compare to Usyk is just... Nobody. If Artur in beat time was boxer "3+" Usyk is "6"

    Wilder dont go crazy on Usyk with his windmill because Usyk will be punish him again and again. And his foot work will be nightmare for Wilder.
    And Wilder is not good at going forward and attack. He is good when he had time to find space to right hand. But when he looking for this space his active are poor (that's why he lost rounds with dude like Szpilka, Washington and other) and someone like Usyk will be outpointed him pretty easy.

    And what is this **** part about choosing Dubois not mandatory Wilder.
    Dude Wilder never was mandatory for Usyk. Dubois was and he must fight with him to defend one of his belts (WBA).

    Wilder fight was never thread for Usyk team. After he beat Joshua he got 3 mandatory pretendents and full unification fight to make first.
    He cant choose Wilder because someone want see it .
    Dubois was first. Then Hrgovic. And Zhang beating Joyce became numero uno in WBO.

    Only Fury fight can happend before all this defence.
     
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  7. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Would be a dangerous fight for Usyk and as Wilder doesn't bring a belt to the table he is best not considered as a potential opponent.
     
  8. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    What a **** post.
     
  9. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    This is pretty spot on, but just to add two things:

    1) Why would Usyk want to fight Wilder who has never been much of a PPV draw, especially when his resume is pathetic and another embarrassing demolition on Wilder would kill the ridiculous illusion that he's a top fighter anyway.

    2) Wilder's spent his whole career ducking fights with contenders who probably beat him. With the exception of the cherry pick gone wrong, he hasn't fought a single contender - and the one he did fight realized he was so poor that he didn't bother to train properly for the third bout (and still won comfortably).
     
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  10. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    Fangirlism of the worst kind... He clearly DKSAB.
     
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  11. mrbigshot

    mrbigshot Active Member Full Member

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    Well , i see some of you immediately fell back in the weakness of going naivly crazy when a sceptical word about usyk is spoken , fine...

    Wilder was nominated as next mandatory if usyk does not agree with dubois . After usyk delayed dubois for months he agreed instantly with him after wilder instead was mentioned , but that means nothing like anything else also .

    Simply remember : whatever happens - 'low blow usyk' ALWAYS speaks the thruth , he never cheats , he will forever be the best boxer in this world and he beats everybody !
     
  12. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Usyk never refused anyone. Dubois was his mandatory not Wilder. Get your facts straight before posting garbage.
     
  13. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Triggered are ya. Poor boy.
     
  14. mrbigshot

    mrbigshot Active Member Full Member

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    No need to argue here folks . I gave you facts but usyk lives rent free in your heads .

    Yes it was a low blow , your hero has simply watermelon sized balls reaching up above the navel . And he would crush wilder with his a$$ cheeks .
     
  15. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Won't happen. If he fights on after Fury, mandos with Hrgovic and Zhang.