Usyk V ?

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  1. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Thread @Fergy style
    How does the mighty Oleksander Usyk do against

    1987 Evander Holyfield
    2003 Vassily Jirov
    2006 Enzo Maccarinelli
    2006 O'Neil Bell
    2007 Jean Marc Mormeck
    2007 David Haye
    2007 Steve Cunningham
    2008 Tomasz Adamek
    2009 Denis Lebedev

    All over 12 rounds, 18.5 foot ring
     
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  2. Tonto62

    Tonto62 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    The only one to beat him and it would be close ,is Holyfield imo.
     
  3. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    2003 Vassily Jirov

    Easily my Favourite fight here, I think we'd be looking at a classic high action, technical brawl. I love Southpaw stance clashes. This one would have Usyk skipping about the ring, flicking his jab and into Jirov's face and dropping his weight to throw some heavy left hands. He'd also have to whip some right hooks into Jirov's body to slow him down.

    Vassily would just do what he does and keep walking forward throwing punches, he managed to land on Toney consistently and would also find Usyk when Usyk would be stood still. However Usyk has some very nice counters and a tight high guard, he'd be more open to the body and so would have to be careful up close. I think Usyk manage to land more on Jirov than Jirov would on Usyk. I also think Usyk has similar levels of power but the better chin. I'd take Usyk to get used to the Footwork quicker and make the adjustments needed to land more punches and wear down The Tiger for a late Stoppage.

    Usyk TKO11
     
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  4. George Crowcroft

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    2009 Denis Lebedev

    I think Usyk would work like the Glowacki fight for this one and keep Denis at arms length and wear him down with body shots and a high output before he slowly stepped up the pace and started walking Lebedev down. Lebedev has so much heart and chin and I doubt he'd be stopped and he definitely wouldn't give up.

    Usyk UD12

    2006 Enzo Maccarinelli
    Absolute missmatch. Enzo was a bad hype job and would be stopped by the pace Usyk would set and wouldn't take his power.

    Usyk KO4

    2006 O'Neil Bell

    I think Usyk would do a Gassiev type job on Bell and outbox him from the start. He'd use his faster feet and hands to land his jab and flurries whilst using his height and reach to dominate Bell. He'd be able to hit whilst not putting himself in danger, Bell could bang and would be a danger but I think it really does look like the Gassiev fight.

    Usyk UD12
     
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  5. George Crowcroft

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    2007 David Haye
    Usyk outboxes Haye. And is able to take his best punches, he'd stick and move away from any tricky shots Haye would be trying to set up and land heavy enough shots to keep David away from the Boxer...
    He'd time Haye to an absolute T by the end of the night and would be landing hard body shots to test Haye's stamina. Haye would lose most of the rounds by being hit too much and not really landing anything. I have a feeling that he'd take Usyks best as whilst yes, he was KOed by Thompson, he did take some hard rights from Wlad.

    Usyk UD12
     
  6. ChrisJS

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    Holyfield is the only one that beats him. That’s a close fight too.
     
  7. Fergy

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    I'm going to think about this one for a bit George , it's a good list .
     
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  8. Fergy

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    A few good ones ,lebedev ,Haye could test him . From what I've seen of him there s not many I'd give a chance .Of course you've put The Real Deal in there , so im going to say Holy by a slim majority decision . And he gets rocked several times by Usyk .
     
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  9. sauhund II

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    So he gets lit up by Euro Bum Bellew but now he is the Dragon slayer......another over hyped beyond over hyped Ex Commie land fighter like the tomatoe can crushers Kova and GGG.......once they stepped up the hype burst like a fantasy bubble.....same is gonna happen here and at Heavy he is getting starched eventually, you can take that to the bank.
     
  10. George Crowcroft

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    Why bring where he's from into it? Bellew was coming of his best 2 wins, both of which are better than the current US HW Champions wins are...
    And saying he was lit up is a wild exaggeration, he was caught with a couple good shots and rolled with most. Bellew's real success was managing to control the distance partially.

    And are inferring that Easton European fighters are worse than American? Because the 3 Easton European fighters in the top 5 pfp say otherwise. Especially when you consider the fact Canelo is American and Inoue is Japanese...
    You mean the 2 guys who were run razor thin in one fight and outright robbed in the other? You mean the two most dominant at there weight at the time? You mean GGG who beat Lemieux and Jacobs (2 elite non European MWs) and Kovelev who beat Pascal and Hopkins (2 elite non European LHWs)?
    Well it isn't coz it's not happening...
    You think? I'll remember that when he's getting his had raised as the winner after making Wilder look like the unskilled gangly mutha****a he is. And then when he's made Ruiz look like an amateur and when he's schooled Whyte and gives Fury his hardest fight.
    I will. And I won't let you forget coz I can be a right dick
     
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  11. emallini

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    Holyfield could beat him in a close fight and Haye has a decent chance to KO him. Usyk is no defensive wizard. He beats the others but has some tough fights. I remember Hunter winning 4 rounds vs Usyk.
     
  12. George Crowcroft

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    He's not James Toney but he has a good Defence. He keeps his hands high and elbows tucked when he's moving. His footwork is absolutely amazing and he manages distance very well. His right arm is either Jabbing, pawing or just holding someone out of range, it's one of the best tools in boxing today. He can slip some shots he sees coming but as I said, he's no James Toney. He doesn't have that punch radar that the all time great defensive Wizards do. Although he does roll with punches nicely.

    Haye had great power at CW and was good at landing, but Usyk is not Enzo Maccarenilli
     
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    emallini Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    If Bellew and Bredis can land straight right hands then so can Haye.
     
  14. emallini

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    I do favour Usyk but Haye would be a live dog
     
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    2007 Steve Cunningham
    This could be somewhat interesting, until Usyk figures him out. It may look a little like the Hunter fight but with Cunningham having more success.
    I think Cunningham is on a similar level to Hunter (at CW) but has better stamina, however Usyk would figure him out and would start to slowly take the rounds, he'd probably win a 7-5/8-4 decision.

    Usyk UD12


    2008 Tomasz Adamek
    I think Usyk does Adamek pretty bad. He'd just be a level ahead at all times. His feet and hands would be quicker and his defence to tight to hit him with the shots needed to KO Oleksander. It's a no-way-of-winning type fight for Adamek

    I wouldn't be surprised to see a stoppage, although I wouldn't pick it.

    Usyk UD12