Usyk vs Andre Ward

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Dance84, Jul 31, 2018.


Who would win Usyk or Andre Ward at Cruiserweight

  1. Andre Ward Tko

    1 vote(s)
    0.9%

  2. Andre Ward UD

    12 vote(s)
    10.8%

  3. Usyk Ko

    52 vote(s)
    46.8%

  4. Usyk UD

    44 vote(s)
    39.6%

  5. Draw

    2 vote(s)
    1.8%
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  1. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    Haha
     
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  2. Birmingham

    Birmingham Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    No its not a fair fight, he gets played with and bust up with ease, look at a lower level or two and maybe, MAYBE Ward can do something...Its not Cruiser/Heavy either, its Cruiser, Usyk is a Cruiser, lets not exaggerate
     
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  3. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    The amateurs mean a lot. Bad amateurs tend to make bad pros, good amateurs tend to make good pros. And a good chin in the amateurs, usually means good chin in the pros.

    Charr is a HEAVYWEIGHT. Got it! That alone makes that an impressive win. Add to that fact that VItali weakly TKO'd him, and a roided up Povetkin KO'd him later and less violently than Briedis did, does carry some weight with logical people. After all we have a ton of people on this site saying that Cruiserweights can't compete with Heavyweight, well one did, and beat a guy more impressively than they did. And you say Duhaupas beat him? Yeah, Duhaupas KO'd Helenius, something Whyte couldn't do, and he's kind of 6'5 and huge.

    Huck just made his debut at Heavyweight stopped Saglam, and was coming off of impressive wins over Afolabi and Kucher, he dominated both, he's not as shot as you claim.

    Lebedev is 37, and? Wlad was 41, and that's AJ's best win, so what. Abdoul is well known for his durability, its not shocking in the least he saw the final bell, he kind of has a long history of it. Gassiev's wins over Lebedev and Dorticos are impressive as hell, there's no winning with you, and no point in arguing, its clear you're quite dense on certain subjects.

    I guess we're going to have to agree to disagree.:hang
     
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  4. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Does Ward get three tunes again?
     
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  5. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Abdoul stopped a grand total of once in 99 fights (and that was in round 12 against Wlod) despite facing everyone and their dog, including tons of quality guys, good level opponents and huge punchers, some numerous times too

    Gassiev
    Haye
    Huck
    Glowacki
    Briedis
    Yoan Pablo Hernandez
    Adamek
    Mike Perez
    Goulamirian
    Enzo Mac
    Michal Cieslak
    Masternak
    Goran Delic
    Richard Towers
    Iago Kiladze
    Agron Smakici
    Vincenzo Cantatore
    Ruediger May
    Dmytro Kucher
    Enad Licina
    Micki Nielsen
    Noel Gevor

    There's more of them but you get the picture ie. Abdoul is stupid durable

    Can you change Jackomano's name to Jackomongo lol

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  6. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Like you said.... the one time he was stopped was in the 12th against Diablo, and even though I haven't seen it, it was a TKO, so it would shock me if that one was questionable, maybe it was one of those Povetkin-Wach deals.
     
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  7. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    Yes and I would say Uysk would make pretty quick light work of Kovalev..

    I don't think Kovalev would quit because unconscious guys can't really make the decision to quit because they are not conscious..

    The size and strength difference is just too great.. Ward like to use roughhouse tactics to put his opponent off.. I just couldn't see him being able to do it against Uysk with out taking a great deal of punishment...
     
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  8. Axel

    Axel New Member banned Full Member

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    :lol:
     
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  9. AlotOfSnap

    AlotOfSnap New Member banned Full Member

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    Lol Of course the idiot doesn’t factor that in! Just like he doesn’t factor in over 70% Of fans think Kovalev won his first fight with Ward. Just like he doesn’t factor in Ward had to resort to illegal **** to get the ‘win’ in their 2nd fight.

    Usyk doesn’t have to resort to that bull****. He just out moves, out thinks and boxes guys brains loose. No hugging, no ball shots, no elbows, no headbutts, no shady bull**** with the judges... just a REAL PFP talent taking top guys in his division to school.
     
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  10. AlotOfSnap

    AlotOfSnap New Member banned Full Member

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    The poll asking who won their first fight... wanna know how that one turned out there homes?

    I HOPE, HOPE Ward tries his luck with Usyk. I really do. Their are actually guys right now at 175 who beat Ward. Gvozdyk would knock him the **** out.
     
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  11. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    I'm going to assume that because you only joined and started watching boxing yesterday that your "lol" was just showing your nativity and inexperience, so you obviously have never seen Usyk box before (as you only started yesterday) and would realise that technically he pretty much has no peers including Ward..
     
    Mr Icaman, Aug 1, 2018
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  12. NewBoxingOrder

    NewBoxingOrder Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This fight would make Gatti-Gamache look competitive.

    Usyk would beat the dog out of Ward. 12-0 massacre or late TKO if Usyk wanted it.
     
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  13. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This. I think Usyk is a talented guy, but more skilled than Ward is laughable. If there was any money in fighting at Cruiserweight Ward would've did it already. Hopefully Usyk and Bellew do fight, since if the fight makes money I could see Ward coming out of retirement to fight the winner.
     
    Jackomano, Aug 1, 2018
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  14. bubbrubb

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    ward looked underpowered at LHW, Ward by KO over Usyk :)
     
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  15. Axel

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    :):p:eaea:
     
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