Usyk vs Daddy Bowe

And I perfectly agree with that. But ever since the forum absolutely orgasmed when Usyk beat the notoriously hated bodybuilder here. Its just been nut hugging ever since.

 

No denying Lewis fought a faded Holyfield but that's not the only example of how Lewis jab was so far superior to Bowe's.

How about their fight with Biggs, both fought him in 91, Bowe ate jab after jab in a pretty even fight, Lewis jabbed the crap outta Biggs before stopping him in dominant fashion.

Golota fight too, Bowe dominated by Golota's jabs, Golota unable to land a jab on Lewis. Lewis lead hand was superior it's plane to see and Lewis as you pointed out could be out jabbed by a great jab too, but that just proves my point than if Bowe's jab is inferior to Lewis' and Lewis too could be out jabbed then Bowe's jab can't be regarded as great.

You can't just judge a jab by connect rate. As I stated before a jab is more than just hitting hard with the jab or even connecting. Lewis often got accused of pawing with the jab but that's because people didn't understand he was even trying to connect with it or even gauge range he pawed the jab much like how Usyk is often throwing short jabs or jabbing his opponents glove, not to land a punch but to illicit a response to gauge his opponent reactions or feinting to create an opening. So yes if you just look at connect rates then Lewis jab won't look as good because he isn't just trying to throw the jab to score. The jab has evolved beyond the basic piston like jab when all you are trying to do is connect.

 

yea but I rather nuthug usyk , than stiff like wilder wilder or flabby , clumsy oaf fury.
Usyk is a man , no crap , no drama , no nonsense , always fights away and wins.

 

The dynamics of these fights were completely different. Bowe boxed Biggs whereas Lewis got him out of there in just 3 round by launching a very explosive assault. Biggs wasn't a bad fight for a novice Bowe who was still learning either

Bowe was finished against Golota. He had no hunger dedication or commitment to training in the first and was completely shot in the second. Whats Lewis excuse when he was out jabbed by Bruno and Mercer in the prime of his career?

I used the stats to reinforce my point that Bowe produced a better jabbing performance against Holyfield than Lewis did. I never said Bowe had a better jab than Lewis overall. But your original comment compared both of their performances and you heavily criticized Bowe's use of the jab..
The fact is Lewis did not do a better job jabbing a much lesser version of Holyfield. . Even if both came up short in certain fights in the jab department , they done better in other fights. In Bowe's case he done better jabbing Holyfield than jabbing Tubbs or Golota.
So there's no denying that Bowe had an above average jab.

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Bowe was shocking against anyone that showed a bit of movement and didn't just march blindly forward like he did. Usyk would absolutely school him, worse than Golota did. Once Usyk schools Fury (assuming Fury doesn't run a mile) a majority of posts in this thread will look mighty stupid.

 

Just to clarify I never said Bowe has a bad jab or even an average jab, he had a very good but limited jab. Lewis' was better or should I say more versatile but then Lewis didn't have the best jab of the era either as Bruno proved and Holmes so often was critical of in regards to Lewis' jab probably because Lewis's jab got more praise than it deserved for Holmes which is understandable when you have a jab like Holmes.

 

Bowe won every round and looked good against boxer mover Larry Donald. And before you take me out of context .. no, im not comparing Usyk to Donald.
Furthermore , Holyfield was an excellent mover.. Bowe didn't look shocking against him , he looked great.

 

Yeah but it's Larry Donald that's like saying you looked good vs Hughie Fury lol.

Yes Holyfield was an excellent mover, great and dancing on the edge of range, stepping in and out, though he did have a tendency to just throw that out the window and go to war, but I guess that's why we loved watching him, such a warrior. Bowe too, the heart he showed in the Golota rematch to this day has me shook, his will to win was as inexhaustible as Holyfield's.

 

If Bowe beat Holyfield, he'd beat Usyk.
Usyk is now unbelievably over-rated. Joshua's game plan was abysmal. or he is just gun shy now and should retire.
When somebody fearlessly walks down Usyk they will win. He does not have heavyweight power.

 

Donald was better than Hughie , also Hughie can make guys look bad like Parker.. Bowe didn't look bad against Larry.

 

Chisora fearlessly walked down Usyk and lost. So where's the argument there?

 

Chisora is a washed up British Club fighter who never ever won a meaningful fight.........

 

Chisora, Whyte - just gatekeepers

 

Usyk would be landing at will. He’s much faster and wouldn’t be dumb enough to trade with bowe. I’m seeing a wide decision win for Usyk

 

I really think that one can’t compare Bowe to Joshua.Bowe is an entire different proposition. I would heavily favour him over Usyk