Usyk vs Evander Holyfield achievements, ATG status

That's pretty funny.

 

Tbh mate, holyfield had a 58fight career and beat some HOF heavyweights, 2 were washed up and old, Holmes and Foreman, He beat a good man in Moorer, a rough tough dangerous Mercer, a very talented big man in Bowe, outmanned still dangerous tyson, and lost to the best heavyweight of the 90s LL.
A great HW resume for a smaller man, Dubblechin doesnt even know how big Uysk will be when he comes in as a heavyweight, id guess 215-220lbs, which what Evander Holyfield eventually grew into in his stronger mid 90 years. They will be the same size basically, But Uysk is a weight bully!? LOL.

Uysk was fighting big CW's, Gassiev is a massive CW moving up to, as is Breidis, Hunter is doing very well at hw right now. Holyfield beat up lazy Lhw's at CW, okay fair play him moved up and had a great career..

 

Too early to tell considering Usyk hasn’t even fought at heavyweight yet. But really even if he becomes undisputed he champ, Holyfield still fought the better competition and will be remember more

 

No, Usyk is fighting small heavyweights who wouldn't have won any titles in Holyfield's era because they couldn't make 190 and Mike Tyson would've pulled their heads off at heavy and clubbed Mitch Green with them at Dapper Dan's.

 

He definitely does. Usyk's best win at CW is a B level LHW.

How is fighting at his natural weight being used against him? He's moving up in 3 months anyway

Briedis should do, Gassiev might, Bellew might. Glowacki could get there.

Probably.

Name a CRUISERWEIGHT that Holy beat who's better than Briedis, Hunter, Gassiev or Glowacki.

 

That's what he's weighed when he's stepped in the ring for all his cruiserweight fights. Like I said, Usyk hasn't moved anywhere.

He didn't "officially" compete at heavyweight because it was easier to win some belts at cruiserweight, where he could make 200 pounds 36 hours before the fight and rehydrate by the time the bell rang.

Usyk was a heavyweight all along, but not good enough in his own mind to win a title. So he picked up some cruiser straps instead.

It's all a mirage.

 

Bellew gets KO'd by Gassiev, Hunter, Breidis, Dorticos. all better Cw's.

 

Yes I agree. But it's a HOF, Bellew is more popular than them and has 2 wins over Haye.

 

Usyk did more at Cruiser. He beat better fighters and achieved more, faster.

But, Evander had a spectacular heavyweight run all things considered. Usyk's got a lot of work to do to catch up to that overall.

 

Who is Usyk’s best opponent?

 

It's up for debate.

Briedis or Gassiev would likely be mosts pick

 

This Mike Hunter love is hysterical. Not as funny as the Gassiev love, but still funny.

These guys are all average at best. In Holyfield's era, they'd be nobodies. Couldn't make 190, and the top heavyweights obliterate them.

That fact that Usyk didn't obliterate any of them doesn't help his cause.

 

Wake me up when Usyk beats someone as good as Tyson and Bowe. Because Gassiev "ain't it."

 

yeh i doubt evander holyfield stepped into the ring at 190lbs either LOL

What a weak argument you have, Uysk should of came in at 190lbs, 10 pounds shy of the CW limit. the CW limit has been 200lbs for a while now.

 

But, he did. Because he weighed in the same day and he weighed in under 190.

The last time Usyk weighed in the same day and fought below 190 was 11 years ago. Usyk has "unofficially" been a heavyweight for a very long time.