Usyk vs Evander Holyfield achievements, ATG status

What's he does now at heavy counts. Holy fought Thomas, Dokes, Stewart, and eventually Douglass. Two of them had worn a trinket when Holy fought them. Usyk wasn't facing that type of comp in 2012 and 2013. I have no problem saying that he fought some fights at heavy already. Were they 12 round fights? Why aren't they on his record? If you have answers to those questions then I'd be happy to know. I'm only talking about his professional fights at heavy and he has none listed on his resume that officially count as wins.

 

You're busted, George.

YOU JUST SAID Spinks beat an Ali who didn't throw any punches. YOU JUST DID.

Ali threw 97 punches in the 15th round ALONE. Brieidis, Glowacki and Gassiev I bet have never thrown that many punches in ANY ROUND, first, third, 10th, certainly not the 15th, because they don't even fight that long anymore.

If you think Ali didn't throw any punches in that fight, then you never saw it.

Or you're a liar.

Because the tape don't lie. The 15th wasn't voted the ROUND OF THE YEAR and the fight wasn't named FIGHT OF THE YEAR because Ali wasn't throwing any punches.

Go away now. I've had it with you.

Did you really say guys like Gassiev and Glowacki could've beaten Ali? Freaking Brilliant.

 

I respect you’re young and still learning about the sport but something has gone horribly wrong if you think Breidis, Glowacki or Gassiev beat even a faded Ali. That’s a joke statement. There’s levels to this and those guys are not even close to good or dangerous enough to beat someone of his calibre.

Mike Perez wasn’t a ghost because he was 31, look up his career.

And yes Leon Spinks would absolutely wipe the floor with Gassiev, Gassiev wouldn’t even be a contender in that HW era (and it remains to be seen if he’ll even be a contender in this one).

 

I know his career. He'd been wiped out by Povetkin in a round and was coming off a lay off. He also lost weight but was coming off a first round KO. He wasn't a joke opponent, just not as good as he was a HW.

Why? Ali showed me nothing in those fights to say that he wouldn't lose to those guys. Leon Spinks beat Ali. He could showed nothing but heart and will against Holmes and not much more than that against Berbick and Shavers.

No. No he really wouldn't

 

You’re just gonna have to trust me on this George.

 

Lol

 

To be fair this is an @Aydamn post... you know, the guy who banked everything on the random thought Whyte wasn't liquid hot garbage and would go all the way.

Just imagine if Usyk had followed the Evan Fields HGH/Headbutt program.

 

Just enjoyed bumping yet another horrible prediction from yourself. Getting things wrong is fine, we all do it, but when it’s agenda driven and an attempt to bring debate down to gutter level then it’s right it gets called out.

 

Of course Joshua is a worthy opponent. He’s one of the top 5 best HWs.

The way you totally dismiss Usyk and say how we can ‘all agree’ with your prediction is the issue. At least be objective about it.

You had it in for Fury and Usyk on Aydamn but also your Inferno account. All of which is an attempt to be contrarian with your silly agenda.