Usyk vs Fury - Rematch Preview & Prediction (VIDEO)

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  1. MrPook

    MrPook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If it goes 12 then I believe Usyk will win. But he might stop Fury as well.

    Fury appeared very nervous the moment of the first fight. During the ring walk and the first two rounds. I think that’s why he was clowning around so much. It wasn’t just showboating, he didn’t look confident at all. That cost him the first two rounds and precious time early in the fight to really put a hurting on Usyk.

    If he can go straight to work from the opening bell and put a Usyk away or at least knock him down during the first six rounds I can see him win. Even if he knocks him down in let’s say the sixth he can build on that the second half of the fight.

    If he can’t do that I think Usyk will overwhelm him again.

    70/30 leaning towards Usyk. Probably by UD with another couple of knockdowns.
     
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  2. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Fury playing around in the first few rounds was him trying to show off how at ease he is in the ring. Everyone else who has fought Usyk or typically any boxer is pretty serious in there. Fury does not care it's all fun and games which is a pretty important factor when boxing at such a high level is mentally draining for many. Neither Usyk or Fury get mentally drained really both got physically drained in that fight. After Fury got serious and found his range he was doing EXTREMELY well and honestly looked to me like Usyk was going to get battered and stopped...then Fury got tired and complacent and it all fell apart.
     
  3. MrPook

    MrPook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think everyone was thinking Fury was winning the fight and probably going to stop Usyk approaching the half point of the fight, no matter what they said after the fight was over.

    Bu all that ‘at ease stuff’ I am not buying it. That would be valid if he actually won the fight. But he didn’t. No one believes that, not even Fury and his people.
     
  4. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Fury clowned against Wlad & Wilder also. People make it into something it's not so Fury makes it into what it really is just two half naked men in a square circle have a mess around. Fury has only really ever locked in which was against McDermott and that 2nd Wilder fight. Hopefully he does in the Usyk rematch. Cunningham fight he locked in then by the 5th/6th round he was dancing in the corner having fun once he realized Cunningham was starting to wilt then stopped him 2 rounds later.

    The only thing about Usyk which unsettles Fury is he is unusually tough for a smaller man, Holyfield level and given Fury really isn't a puncher and any raw power he does have drains mid fight onwards means he is forced into the boxing match fight....so that kind of fight against Usyk means it's always going to be close barring perfection executed.
     
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  5. MrPook

    MrPook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No I don’t believe he had the same confidence. He was nervous for sure.
     
  6. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    I would be on edge a little if I was in horrible shape less 4 months prior then had a cut from getting slapped in sparring by a total scruff. Fury on edge and nerves is good. Fury without nerves or not on edge sucks he rarely gets up for fights which is his trademark weakness. When Fury came out for the 2nd Wilder bout he was nervous then he got on his throne and was focused up till the stoppage. Neither Usyk or Fury are mentally challenged by a boxing match unlike AJ who crys internally every time he fights.
     
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  7. MrPook

    MrPook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Comparing him to AJ is a stretch ofcourse. That’s a whole other level of nervous. Still I think AJ’s issues might be more in the he crashed his estrogen department, right before the fight. And that’s why he is so nervous because he feels like ****. Just my theory, got zero prove for that one.
     
  8. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Still a 50/50 for me. Either Fury by stoppage or Usyk on points with a knockdown or two.
     
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  9. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    The extent of Fury’s clowning is being exaggerated as is the alleged negative impact to his game.

    In fact, I don’t think it had any impact at all.

    It’s just one of myriad excuses as to why Tyson lost the fight - a fight he still actually thinks he should’ve won - but for the Ukraine war.

    Tbh, I don’t think I’ve ever read as many excuses as those that have been steadily plied for Fury.

    At one point, after Usyk cracked him hard and hurt Fury, Tyson leaned his head forward and gave a silly smile (clowning) that wore off as quickly as it came.

    Fury merely clowned when he had no other answer to Usyk.

    It was purely false advertising - deliberate projection of a fighter having an easy fight - trying to play off the actual effectiveness of his opponent, ala Muhammad Ali.

    Also, holding the ropes whilst moving his head/body as Fury did while in the corner is actually illegal - the ropes are not allowed to be used as leverage.

    You will often see fighters not move in when their opponent is pulling such a stunt.

    Post fight, it was Fury who introduced deliberate “clowning” into the conversation - stating more or less, “I don’t know if you noticed, but I was having fun out there.”

    Yes Tyson, we noticed what you clearly wanted wanted us to notice - your false projection.

    Round 9 was an absolute hoot, wasn’t it?

    Notably that was the round when Fury tried to mug after taking a clearly damaging punch, shortly thereafter Tyson was bouncing this way and that…..

    ….:IF Fury claimed that was he clowning during that sequence, when stuttering all over the ring, ricocheting off the ropes, I’d have to wonder if there still wouldn’t be a certain contingent of fans who would’ve bought that explanation…..
     
  10. MorvidusStyle

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    Fury was definitely nervous and threatened by Usyk, same as with Wlad and Wilder. Fury knows what he's getting into with these fights and has his own doubts. He was worried about the power of Wlad and Wilder and about the skill of Usyk.

    I think his main problem is his punch resistance and trainer. A younger Fury without those problems probably beats Usyk that night in a competitive fight. Haters don't like that idea but Fury did very well under the circumstances and only would have done better in the past. I don't think Usyk had the same handicaps Fury did, and it's irrelevant whether Fury caused those himself.

    For him to win now he has to have a really good night and Usyk needs to be a bit off. But he's really up against it now.

    He's well placed in the underdog zone now, but due to his determination and ability it's not unbelievable if he pulls it off. And it would be pretty funny if that happened.
     
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  11. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Fury is currently 2.5/1 odds at the moment. Pretty decent tbh

    I think people are massively underrating Fury's performance against Usyk. He was Usyks toughest opponent for a reason.
     
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  12. MrPook

    MrPook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The thing with Fury is there are like 9 different Fury’s living inside his head and you never know which one will show up. Maybe a tenth one never seen before.
     
  13. HOUDINI

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    I predicted Usyk would win via Unanimous decision first time out.

    I am even more convinced Usyk wins the second bout. Usyk lands a big combination around mid fight and drops Fury. He ends the fight moments later. Usyk via TKO round 7.
     
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  14. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    A no excuses version of Fury would be refreshing. :D
     
  15. Rumsfeld

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    Thank you very much.

    I largely agree. Wilder was easily being outmuscled and pushed around by Fury in their last 2 fights. Usyk never had that kind of problem, is slippery enough to avoid that type of thing, and when tangled up, Usyk is very strong and resourceful and can more than hold his own.

    Upon my recent rewatch (before this video), Fury actually did that type of stuff more later in the fight than I'd remembered (in part, at least, I think because he was trying to bide some time and better pace). Still surprised he didn't try and do a little more of that very early last time.
     
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