Usyk vs Joshua careers so far: Who has achieved more in 5 years?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Big Ukrainian, Nov 10, 2018.


Who has achieved more so far?

  1. Usyk

    13 vote(s)
    56.5%

  2. AJ

    4 vote(s)
    17.4%

  3. Even/too close

    6 vote(s)
    26.1%
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  1. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Usyk. 16-0, 12 KOs. WBC, WBA, WBO, IBF CW World champion, 7-0 in world title fights, notable wins - Briedis, Gassiev, Bellew, Hunter, Glowazki, Huck.

    Joshua. 22-0, 21 KOs. WBA, IBF, WBO World champion. 7-0 in world title fights, notable wins - Wlad, Povetkin, Parker, Whyte, Takam, Breazeale.

    Who has achieved more since his debut 5 years ago. Or it's too close to call? Vote
     
    Big Ukrainian, Nov 10, 2018
    Big Ukrainian, Nov 10, 2018
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  2. Tyson Fury Goat

    Tyson Fury Goat Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    USYK and olek would school joshua
     
    Tyson Fury Goat, Nov 10, 2018
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  3. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    In a boxing sense, Usyk because he is undisputed king at CW while Joshua is not undisputed (some think Wilder or Fury, or Usyk moving up would beat him). However Joshua does have a win over an ATG, albeit old, while Usyk doesn't.

    Then again in terms of financial achievements it's Joshua, he's become a bigger star than anyone could've predicted.

    So I vote too close.
     
    KiwiMan, Nov 10, 2018
    KiwiMan, Nov 10, 2018
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  4. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Joshua because he's in the better division, but if Usyk moves up he can change that.
     
    Jackomano, Nov 10, 2018
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  5. 81ZAR

    81ZAR Dr. Steelhammer Full Member

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    I would say Usyk. I think AJ's perceived dominance is largely down to marketing, no doubt he's the best at HW now, but he isn't an unstoppable monster like the media would have you believe. He went life and death with a shot Klitschko, that's probably his only opponent who was a genuine challenge. The rest of them were bigged up to accelerate the Anthony Joshua hype train.
     
    81ZAR, Nov 10, 2018
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  6. vnyc

    vnyc Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Usyk by far. He did not need help to win gold medal at olympics while british juice head couldn’t do it, usyk has travelled and beat the best in their backyards , joshua on the other hand went life and death with old shot wlad , struggled with shot povetkin early. Usyks boxing skills, resume and overall achievements are on another level compared to AJ’s
     
    vnyc, Nov 10, 2018
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  7. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Collecting all the belts, while impressive, is a bit overrated. I have Joshua slightly ahead and a 60/40 chance of winning head to head right now.

    I'll be rooting for Usyk though.
     
    Reg, Nov 10, 2018
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  8. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    OK the poll is close so far
     
    Big Ukrainian, Nov 10, 2018
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  9. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    About 10 people rated Tony Bellew on this forum. Nobody gave him a chance of berating Usyk so why does Usyk deserve credit for beating a guy nobody thought awa any food?
     
    dinovelvet, Nov 10, 2018
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  10. TrustTheUniverse

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    Joshua has done very well but Usyk has become champion quicker and unified all the belts unlike Joshua and done it all in their backyards unlike Joshua, Plus Cruiserweight is a stronger division than Heavyweight. Usyk has definitely achieved more.
     
    TrustTheUniverse, Nov 10, 2018
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  11. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well I have certainly rated Bellew for destroying David Haye, and also don't forget he won WBC belt at CW.
     
    Big Ukrainian, Nov 10, 2018
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  12. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    So do i , but the majority gave him no credit for that win , but now those want to heap praise on Usyk for beatng a guy they never rated in the first place
     
    dinovelvet, Nov 10, 2018
    dinovelvet, Nov 10, 2018
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  13. Jake LaMotta

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    Golovkin beat up guys people didn't know existed and was lauded to heaven high, why give Usyk a hard time over beating Bellew
     
    Jake LaMotta, Nov 10, 2018
    Jake LaMotta, Nov 10, 2018
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  14. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't know why people didn't rate Bellew. He looked very ordinary at LHW when he cut off too much weight, but at 200 and 200+ he looked much better actually than he was given credit for
     
    Big Ukrainian, Nov 10, 2018
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  15. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    I dunno , why?
     
    dinovelvet, Nov 10, 2018
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  16. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Well if not for home advantage AJ wouldn't even have come back from the Olympics with a medal of any colour. Home advantage is a thing. All his fights have been fought at home on a playing field that is heavily weighted in his favour and he won all his world titles at home. Conversely, every single one of Usyk's world title fights have been fought on the road and 6 of 7 of them were fought in his opponent's home countries and he won all his world titles in his opponent's countries too.

    Usyk has beaten 5 world champions in just 16 fights (which is a hell of a lot for most champs. Andre Ward has only beaten 6 and he's had 32 fights), whereas AJ has beaten 4. I'm not knocking AJ, because's done great too.
     
    Serge, Nov 10, 2018
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