Usyk vs Ortiz, September 2016, who wins and how ?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by zop, Feb 13, 2016.


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  1. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    Why did you put Sep 16 if it's a fantasy match up?
     
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  2. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    :lol: I wondered that the moment I saw this thread, but I didn't want to look like a p***k like I usually do by asking it.:yep
     
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  3. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Ortiz
     
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  4. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    It bothers the hell out of me, if I was a mod I'd ban OP :fire :lol:
     
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  5. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    I would too, the moment I see a misspelled word I'd hit the delete button.
     
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  6. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    Majidov and Nistor arent small guys build wise and have carved up taller men. When youre good, youre good..height is just another attribute like any other.

    I don't recall Usyk struggling at anytime against those super heavies. He looked like he could go another 5 rounds and win them all too.

    I wouldn't pick him over Ortiz but I dont think mixing it with these bigger guys will be uncharted waters for him.
     
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  7. Geebox

    Geebox Well-Known Member Full Member

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    At equal weight I'd say Ortiz, but not a fight that gonna happen.
     
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  8. james5000

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    They are both shorter than Szpilka, Nistor is only 6ft1 and weighs less than Szpilka. Majidov is a few pounds heavier than Szpilka and everyone calls Szpilka a blown up iddy biddy cruiserweight.
     
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  9. zop

    zop Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I hope, I would pay my month salary (not so much, I live and work in Eastern Europe) to see this match. I really think it would be the most interesting match after Lewis - Klitschko in HW.
     
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  10. Super Hans

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    Ortiz fails a fantasy drug test in August 2016 and the fight doesn't happen. Usyk via moral victory.
     
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  11. zop

    zop Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Very witty !
     
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  12. MrFoFody

    MrFoFody Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It was intentional ;), as if 7 rds is any better...
     
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  13. silencio

    silencio Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I still think it might be too early and too dangerous at this stage for Usyk, but I usually err on the side of caution. CTS80 and Vysotskyy - how do you see the fight developing and why do you think Usyk wins (at this stage)?
     
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  14. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Usyk being a southpaw as well could prove a stylistic challenge for Ortiz he hasn't seen that often, add to that Ortiz hands are somewhat slow, I could see Usyk giving him a ton of lateral movement, repeatedly parrying or ducking his straight left while nailing him with one of his own, most likely of the overhand variety, Ortiz could always get lucky and catch him with a huge shot and put him down. But personally I think Usyk would set such a frenetic pace, throw punches from so many different angles, easily adjust to any adjustment Ortiz makes that he would either stop him late or easily UD him. Usyk oddly does far better against taller opponents than he does against opponents who are smaller or of equal size.
     
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  15. zop

    zop Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I really respect your knowledge, but I think you've neglected deciding factor here : Usyk's chin. Could he take strong punches (and Ortiz can hurt everyone) ? I will repeat : for me it's 50/50
     
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