Usyk wants more money

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  1. senpai

    senpai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How it's fair to have 25% when you accomplish more in boxing than your opponent ?
     
  2. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's not about winning a purse bid, it's about getting more money. The fighters don't care if a fight goes to purse bids. They both make more when the fight goes to the highest bidder.

    Only the promoter who might lose the fight does, because he has to pay more to keep it.

    And, sometimes the promoter does lose the fight.

    There are some wildcards out there right now. Arum didn't think he'd lose Teofimo to TRILLER.
     
  3. dinovelvet

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    What do you mean by lowball offer? The WBO set the split which is 25%. Thats standard for mandatory challengers . There's isn't an offer and if there is it will b a higher split made by Hearn. . So Hearn only stands to make a high ball offer . not a lowball one.

    Every mandatory challenger since Bowe fought Holyfield got a 25% split. . Why should Usyk be any different?
     
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  4. Dubblechin

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    I agree.

    But then they'd also find out how much their fight is actually worth on the open market.

    That's why they don't. Well, that's why Joshua won't.

    Hearn has already tipped their hand. ALL the belts had to be on the line for his coked-up Sheik to be involved. And even with them, their Saudi oil guy won't deliver the site fee he supposedly promised.

    And no Brits will pay MORE than £30 for a PPV, which is cheap for PPVs in the U.S.

    I paid that much for Holyfield-Foreman in 1991 - 30 years ago!!!

    Joshua needs belts to market himself. Hearn needs Joshua. And, unbelievably, Usyk has them by the balls. (LOL)
     
  5. gollumsluvslave

    gollumsluvslave Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Agreed.

    Usyk can't moan about not getting his mandatory slot, then complain about only getting mandatory money.

    UNLESS he was getting step-aside money that's fallen through due to the Wilder arbitration. But he get's his shot which is what he was wanting. I guess he could claim "lost earnings" waiting for it all to unfold but even that's a stretch.
     
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  6. N17

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    Right,

    Well the lowball offer will be what Hearn is offering now, right now, in negotiations... well before any purse bids.

    Hearn and Usyks team are now trying to cut a deal, Hearn will have offered a low number for a one off fight and then offered a bigger number providing there is a rematch clause.

    Because Usyk doesn't have to accept a rematch being mandatory.

    Hearn will want to secure a rematch in case anything goes sideways, Usyk could walk off with all the belts and go and fight the winner of Fury/Wilder and AJ is left holding his nuts.

    So Usyk shouldn't accept a rematch clause and let it go to purse bids.

    Hearn, DAZN and Sky can't afford to lose a purse bid, there are TV deals ans all sorts, so they will have to bid large anyway.. you never know who bids, anybody can bid for a fight.

    So Usyk just needs to hold firm, refuse any rematch clause and let it go to purse bids and take the 25%
     
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  7. dinovelvet

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    Lets wait till Hearns explains his position to Kugs cos the only low ball tactic is making Usyk sign a rematch clause.
    The split is the same split it has always been.
     
  8. Dubblechin

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    75-25 is standard. But some orgs will say the challenger deserves a greater share, and I've seen it go as high as 55-45 in a bidding situation for some 'names.'

    But I don't think Usyk has that much juice. Although, the WBO has bent WAY over backwards for him so far, more than the other orgs who had him as their cruiserweight champ - which was all of them.

    But I think 25 percent is what the split would be. Just need more silent bidders to move that up ... or get Hearn to negotiate a better split in exchange for a rematch clause.
     
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  9. N17

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    It's a standard tactic, offer a low number in the early negotiations then suggest a bigger purse but with the guarantee of a rematch.

    The problem Hearn has is mandatory challengers don't have to accept a rematch clause.

    How much does AJ get paid PER FIGHT? It's a lot, so 25% won't be loose change, Usyk should just go to purse bids.

    Take 25% and have a one off fight with no commitment to Hearn or AJ.


    This is why Hearn has mentioned numnerous times they may just drop a belt, it's a headache and a huge risk.
     
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  10. dinovelvet

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    Example?
     
  11. dinovelvet

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    We don't know if Hearns wants to make that offer.. Maybe they don't want to implement a rematch clause , maybe they feel they get Usyk defeated and move on. Literally nothing about these negotiations have surfaced so far.. Only a few days ago it was AJ vs Fury.

    The only thing for certain is Usyks cut is not a low ball offer but the standard rate going for mandatory challengers.
     
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  12. N17

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    The rematch clause offered will basically work one way. It will only come in to play if AJ loses.

    If AJ beats Usyk they will move on to try and make undisputed but if Usyk wins they will want the rematch.

    That will be the deal offered. Hearn has mentioned these types of offers before.


    For example, If Josh Warrington beat Lara, even in a really close or controversial fight, Lara wouldn't have got a rematch.

    Whyte, if he beat Povetkin the first time, there wouldn't have been a rematch.
     
  13. alangjk

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    Make sure you order something from Just Eat while you are watching.
     
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  14. N17

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    :lol: Yeah, that's standard
     
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  15. N17

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    Well, from what I'm understanding..

    The WBO have given Hearn 48 hours to confirm Fury Vs AJ and basically get rid of the Wilder situation or its 100% Usyk....

    Or vacate the WBO.


    Things are now heating up.
     
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