Usyk will become undisputed hw champion until 2020 !

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by zop, Sep 18, 2016.


  1. zop

    zop Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Let us say 9/10.
     
  2. IKSAB

    IKSAB Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    He's a great talent, but thats a pretty ridiculous statement.
     
  3. gmurphy

    gmurphy Land of the corrupt, home of the robbery! banned Full Member

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    Id say usyk would make wilder look like a complete fool
     
  4. Faceplant

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    Too late.
     
  5. zop

    zop Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I didn't exaggerate, I really think so. I had some minor doubts before yesterday. He has speed, mobility, footwork, combos, stamina, power, slickness and cojones (just like his compatriot Vitali...You can not see any fear in his eyes).
     
  6. IKSAB

    IKSAB Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    He can rule CW but I don't see him beating guys like Fury, Joshua, Wilder, Ortiz etc they have too much size on him.
     
  7. zop

    zop Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I can not agree with you. Should I mention Ali, Frazier and Holyfield ?
     
  8. lloydturnip

    lloydturnip Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Briedas beats him just as fast harder hitting .one punch power has taken out HWs .very dangerous bloke.
     
  9. Bearabroad

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    He looked really good last night and can clean up at Cruiser weight. Stepping up to the land if the giants and doing the same would be a huge ask. Fury, Joshua, Wilder, Klitshko etc would have massive size and likely power advantages over him. There is a reason why all the huge heavyweights are dominating the division.
     
  10. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    GTFOOH lmao...
     
  11. gmurphy

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    I think the skill gap would be way too much

    But a Latvian beating a Ukrainian would be comical
     
  12. Lith

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    Very hard to say how the transfer to heavyweight will go, he certainly would outbox the majority of them - the only reason I don't say "ALL" is that he is near half a foot shorter than the top guys, Joseph Parker gets stick for being too short but is 1-2inches taller and by my eye while he his not the hardest puncher but certainly carries much more than what Usyk was putting through last night BUT also less technique. That leads me onto the next point, I do wonder if the shift up in weight required to be a "real" heavyweight (ie, to carry the mass to absorb and inflict enough punishment to deal with the top heavies) I suspect his epic footwork would take quite a hit and his power is decent but not destructive at the elite end of cruiser, the chinny heavyweights are likely to be able to weather that level of power in order to get past the footwork and lay on some pain.

    He did look to have a decent chin against a decent power cruiser, though that is clearly a different class where the top heavies are MUCH bigger than the top cruisers - the size/power difference is more like two classes up if you were looking at any other weight class. I guess a comparison from a couple of recent cases which come to mind is Kell Brook and Amir Khan moving up to fight bigger guys, BOTH of them were outboxing Golovnelo but their power just wasn't impacting the armor and their own armor was doing little against the force from the naturally heavier guys.

    To be clear, this isn't saying I've decided he can't dominate at heavyweight .... he is an amazing fighter - just airing some thoughts. He would CERTAINLY make his presence known, no doubt about that... I just don't know if he can't get away with being that small a frame, usually you need to be a pile of concrete (ie, Tua or Tyson) if you're going to be a dude that much smaller than your peers fighting the bigger elite and be a wrecking ball
     
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  13. chitownfightfan

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    He'd be a fool not to move up to HW and get a mil+ to get his shiit pushed in by Haye.

    Even Shumenov would KHTFO
     
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  14. The Akbar One

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    I got a good look at Usyk yesterday. Was expecting a bit more power from him after hearing the lot of you gargle his balls real good over the last year. That being said, he displayed good boxing skills, and won the fight easy. I would have liked to see more power and accuracy from him though. Glowacki's head movement caused some problems for Usyk, and when Usyk did land Glowacki took them no problem. Both are good fighters, the two best cruisers in my opinion. I don't think Usyk has the power to reach the top level at heavyweight though.
     
  15. Brighton bomber

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    He's good but he isn't flawless.

    His upper body and head movement isn't great, he relies on his fast feet and high guard for his defence. Rather than slipping shots he either stays out of range or blocks shots on his gloves.

    If he is too have success at heavy he'll need to learn to move his head more to get inside against much taller opposition. Glowacki didn't have too much difficulty landing when he could get in range and against big heavies Uysk can't just expect to block shots on his gloves all the time, it's pretty easier to punch around his basic high guard as Glowacki proved when he did land.

    So based of what I've seen so far Usyk can be competitive at heavy but he'll need to make adjustments if he is to truly dominate heavyweight.