Usyk won't play by the rule this time, says the contract is for Dec. 23th

Fury was the A-side until he got schooled by a professional debut. Now he just needs to get in the ring so Usyk can take his belt legally.

 

And now you are turning around a question we were asking a week ago.

The Usyk groupies said that he wasn't obligated to state what the injuries were.

 

I have a feeling Uncle Frank will pay Usyk some significant step up aside money to shut him up. I expect the fight will then happen sometime around March/April. With the winner to face Ngannou later next year. Ngannou might fight on the Fury/Undercard aagainst some unknown opponent

 

What do you mean? There was no need for interpretation, Usyk spoke clearly. I'm directly quoting the interview:

Reporter: Did you have injuries after the last match?
Usyk: I can't say that everything's ok. But I'm fine. Some wounds, old injuries need to be healed. Everything's under control.
Reporter: How much time do you need for preparation?
Usyk: I do my training sessions every day. But I need 14 weeks for my camp. It would be enough time for me. The first 4 weeks I'm doing my work that helps me to get ready to the training camp. Then I'm working hard for the next 12 weeks.
Reporter: Do you believe that the contest will happen in December?
Usyk: No, I don't. I would like it to be in December. But there's no certainty.

I don't understand which part of these sentences are unclear. I especially don't understand why only Fury apologists seem to have problems understanding the interview.

1) Usyk never said he was injured. He explicitly said he was fine, everything was under control. The old injuries he mentioned are probably his shoulders which he had problems before, but it doesn't interfere with anything, as you can see. Usyk is 37 soon. He had around 500 amateur and professional bouts, thousands more in sparring, thousands of hours of weight lifting, the works. At his age, it's normal that fighters always have some niggles. If you are a professional boxer approaching 40 and nothing hurts in your body, you didn't train and spar and fought hard and long enough in your career.

2) Usyk never said he wasn't in camp and he needed 14 weeks from the time of the interview. He was talking about what he needs in general. To clear up any confusion you may have: they even confirmed in Saudi that he only spent a week or so with his family after the Dubois fight and then he got back to camp straight away. It's the end of October now, meaning Usyk has been in camp for roughly around 8 weeks. 6 more weeks in camp for him, December 23rd is some 8 weeks away. Once again, I don't understand where do you or others get the idea that he talked about needing more time and not being in camp yet.

3) Usyk never said he didn't want the fight to be in December. He said the exact opposite. He expressed his wish to fight in December in this interview, way before the Ngannou fight (cue that clueless pelican @Thunderstorm who tries to imply that Usyk only wants this December date now, after Fury's laughable performance against Ngannou). What he said was that he didn't believe the fight would happen and he clearly referred to the fact that when dealing with Fury, anything can happen and even a signed contract means Sweet Fanny Adams with him as he wiggled his way out of a contractual rematch against Wlad too.

TL;DR - he answered questions and described his training schedule in general. Never once did he mention anything about having injuries that hamper his training or the scheduled fight date, nor did he mention anything about not being in camp yet and needing more time.

But I ask once again: why don't you guys ever put Fury's words under such scrutiny? He was the one who threatened Usyk last week with a lawsuit should Usyk be a no show in December (never mind the fact that it has never happened with Usyk, not once in his career that he was a no show, Fury on the other hand...). Now, after Ngannou beating him, he suddenly goes back to "listen, I need rest, I don't know what will happen" and Warren talking about the bout not going ahead in December. What's that all about? Why don't you describe how do you interpret this behaviour, these statements from Team Fury?

 

Fury is going to fake a sore toe and duck the fight. Or maybe he retires again

 

If you have a fight in two months and an interviewer asks, 'how much time do you need to prepare?', wouldn't you assume thst he's not asking a general question? Wouldn't you answer directly, and not go on a "general" spiel about needing to know in order to start planning and training?

Your whole explanation is based on plausible deniability. How much cognitive dissonance is required to pretend that only Usyk's fans misinterpreted what was said..

 

It's not an explanation, mate. I literally quoted the guy directly.

I really don't understand what you guys don't understand. You are clutching at straws with these semantics. "How much time do you need" can mean "in general" and "for this fight now". The interview is a week or so old. Usyk was talking about 14 weeks which is three and a half months. Do you assume that nor the reporter, nor Usyk can't count weeks and months? If the reporter meant "how much time do you need now, from now, for this fight" then he wouldn't have followed it up with a question of "do you believe that the contest will happen in December" because from Usyk's answer of "14 weeks" (and what you presume here he meant from the day of the interview) would have meant Usyk was talking about being ready by sometime early February. It's not rocket science, mate.

Also, please don't ignore this bit:

I'm listening, so please go ahead.

 

The interviewer, I believe, was asking if he could be ready in time with an atypical camp, which is what Usyk had indicated that it was. If he'd given the indication that he had his usual 14 weeks, why would the interviewer follow up and ask if he'd be ready? What would be the point. Your argument is full of logical fallacies.

Anyway...

Yes, I DO put Fury's words under scrutiny. This fight MUST happen on December 23rd. No one told him to get in the ring with a monster. That's on him.

 

Man Fury seems to be even more the A side than he was before, the man's got more haters than Floyd Mayweather had back in the day!! He had a bad day at the office and (officially) still won at the weekend. He's still undefeated, still the lineal and WBC champ and could still make more fighting anyone he chooses than Usyk can earn in 5 title defence fights. Only by facing Fury can Usyk earn some serious coin before retiring as (according to some on here) tbe HW having had less than 10 HW bouts.

I'm glad Fury's contradictory comments have finally caught up with him tho, he never learns to keep stum and in saying its Dec 23rd or Usyk gets sued I hope that come back to bite him now and he's forced to keep that date. Just for the record even then and after that dire performance v Nganou I'd still fully expect Fury to beat Usyk if it happens on that date!

 

After - in all but corrupt result - losing to an MMA debutant, how anyone that has a love of boxing can state that right now beggars belief to me.

Crazy talk!

 

I have lost interest in this fight to some extent, but it is important for boxing that Fury loses & soon. He has been a disgraceful champion and needs to be parted from his belt.

 

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Why do people like you think it's all just about how much Fury or Usyk can earn? How much does someone need, really?

Fury has to look at himself in the mirror. Fury has to acknowledge his innermost truths when he's trying to go to sleep at night. All the money in the world can't change that, and all the pillocks trying to ignore the truth on internet forums can't change that either.

 

Who did you just post about?

Not Oleksander Usyk.