Usyk .....

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Dance84, Oct 12, 2019.

  1. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

    Oct 11, 2017
    I love fighters that move up and dare to take on dangerous and risky fights

    While i do think myself that all the talk of usyk beating all the top heavyweights Wilder , Fury and Joshua is all hype and overating him in a way.

    I myself am starting to believe this hype

    Many usyk fans rate him as the best in heavyweight. Think about it to rate a boxer the best in a division hes never even fought in. That is alot of hype
    which is why i rate usyk top 5 most hyped fighters today at #5

    However after looking at several different usyk fights for the past few weeks i might have myself ended sipping some of the usyk cool aid ......

    I ended looking at wilders weaknesses and matched them with usyks strengths and like a puzzle it fits perfectly

    Wilders crazy swinging and looping shots are dangerous no doubt. I saw spizka who was making wilder miss and hitting wilder with clean shots szpilka

    I saw how ortiz a southpaw had ortiz in danger in the 7th round
    fury had wilder missing as well

    After seeing this weaknesses i put it all together

    usyk carries fair power and a good work rate when he becomes aggressive. i think usyk would make wilder miss all his shots and with wilder missing all those shots and
    usyks elusive movement +high work rate + Decent power = Usyk Stops Wilder

    it fits just like a puzzle. I dont think usyk not only does usyk beat wilder. I think he stops wilder as well.
    However if wilder stopped him i would not be surprised

    i thought of usyk as hyped fighter due to the claim of usyks fanbase claiming he wipes out all the heavyweights

    in the process of me investigating the hype .... i found myself now drinking that usyk kool aid and seeing what they see
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  2. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Jan 10, 2007
    I'm not the one who is talking about Usyk whooping all the best Heavyweight in spite of him being my counnrtyman. However, he matches well against all of them and has from decent to good chances of beating either of them.

    Usyk vs Wilder - Wilder can KO anybody, but the difference in skills and ring IQ in this fight would be enormous. Wilder looked awful against much lesser southpaw - Artur Szpilka, imagine how bad he would look against Usyk? If Wilder lands clean, he might end fight right then and there, but it's a huge iIF in this case.

    Usyk vs Ruiz Jr - Usyk is a stylistic nightmare for shorter Ruiz who, while having fast hands. is slow on his feet. Of course, if Ruiz catches him with a clean punches, he will likely put Usyk in big troubles, but Ruiz tends to get lethargic aginst good movers, and Usyk has an excellent footwork.

    Usyk vs Joshua - AJ's size, power and solid boxing skills would make thing tough for Usyk to overcome early in the fight. But his awful stamina may betray him again

    Usyk vs Fury - I thought that Fury was a stylistic nightmare for Usyk. Huge, elusive, negative fighter. But southpaw Otto Wallin, who is few classes below Usyk, gave him all kind of troubles. Now I think Fury will be much more focused and better prepared for Usyk, but still Fury's bad performance against southpaw makes me wonder would Usyk really be an underdog against Fury?
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  3. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

    Oct 11, 2017

    great fighter , you gotta love the risks hes taking here taking on these giants in the future

    i see it as hercules entering hell and fighting demons
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  4. Iain

    Iain New Member Full Member

    Nov 27, 2016
    I love Oleksander Usyk.
    Best CW since Holyfield.
    I hope he achieves everything he wants at HW
    That is all
  5. Potwash

    Potwash The Real Untouchables Full Member

    Dec 13, 2017
    Great fighter. I believe he will live up to the hype.

    Saw him in London on the Joshua/Povetkin fight. Was a few hours before the fight and he was just chilling with a friend shopping. Had a chat with him, really decent guy.
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  6. Ra's Al-Ghul

    Ra's Al-Ghul The one and only! booted Full Member

    Oct 17, 2014
    As Gomez was better than Holyfield.:deal:
  7. PunchersChance.

    PunchersChance. Active Member booted Full Member

    Nov 30, 2018
    Gomez is underrated but better than Holyfield? No way.
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    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie booted Full Member

    Oct 30, 2016
    No matter how you break the fight down its 50/50 with smart money going to Usyk ,he should win by slight chance he gets past all 12.

    Usyk tonight im guessing will carry Witherspoon on a long lay off to get rounds in so i took the over 9 rnds, but if Witherspoon shows signs of threat it will end and probably right there, if Usyk feels he needs to end the night.

    Tonights fight has zero to do with a wilder one which has a probability of about 80% NEVER happening.
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  9. Ra's Al-Ghul

    Ra's Al-Ghul The one and only! booted Full Member

    Oct 17, 2014
    He has more achieved, with twice as many title defences and he would be a stylistical nightmare for him, because of his superior speed and slickness. Gomez was like a bigger Roy Jones Jr.; more stationary and a little bit slower, but with more power.
    The only advantage of Holyfield was the stamina, but the speed would give him trouble. His era was much weaker than in the next decade. When Gomez, Nelson, Mormeck and Shirov were world champions at the same time, it was likely the best division besides Super-Featherweight (with Mayweather, Freitas, Casamayor and Corrales, all undefeated). Holyfield had far less fights in this weight class (just as Usyk) and only 2 - 3 world class opponents.

    By the way could be Nelson, Norris, Dominquez and Tiozzo also in the top 10 (ahead of Usyk).

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