Usyk's all time P4P place

GOAT CW?

greater than Holyfield? Greater than Haye?

 

Haye got knocked out at cruiser and never avenged that loss.

 

100% much greater than Haye, not sure about Holyfield

 

Definitely better than Haye

 

Definitely better than Evan Fields.

 

Top 2 easily

 

Top 20?! Is it just me who feels like were starting to overrate Usyk? I mean look at boxing history and how many fighters there have been, and he's already top 20? I dont know it doesn't sit right with me. Don't get me wrong though, Usyk is close to being a ATG.

 

Extremely Overrated to talk about him in an all-time sense. He doesn't even have 20 boxing matches yet.

 

true, but look what he's just done.

 

good point.
i don't think anyone can seriously rate usyk above pac or floyd with a straight face.
it makes me wish he wasn't 34 and had less than 20 fights, but damn, you have to respect what he just did.

 

post-fight mega-hype. happens a lot here.
gotta love usyk for what he's done, but deep breaths everyone.

 

He is the goat cruiserweight and best p4p fighter rn but not all time top 20 p4p.

 

I'd say Holyfield is the still the best Cruiser of all time.
Usyk is second at Cruiser.
Usyk's heavyweight career still needs to play out. Given his age and the available challengers, it will be hard to build a really great resume at Heavyweight. The AJ win is a great win. He's locked in to have to rematch AJ and the only other potential great win (right now) is Fury. That's going to eat up time on a guy in his mid 30's. He could be 36 or 37 by the time a Fury fight happens. I doubt Fury's team will be rushing to make an Usyk fight. If Fury beats Wilder, Fury will sit on his butt for another year, fight a tune up, maybe a mandatory, that gives him another year to sit on his butt, then go for unification after the smaller guy gets a bit older and slows down a bit. We have seen this game plan before of letting the smaller faster guy get a bit older and slow down a bit before making a mega fight. Also in that time the ABC crooks will be forcing Usyk to take on mandatories, possibly strip him, and maybe we'll never get unification.