Usyk's legacy if...

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  1. BoxingViewer

    BoxingViewer Active Member Full Member

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    He defeats Fury, defends the undisputed and lineal crowns successfully against his mandatories Dubois, Hrgovic and Joyce and also gets a win over Wilder. Where do you rank him on the list of all time best heavyweights?
     
  2. Austinboxing

    Austinboxing British Boxing fan Full Member

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    This will never happen. Usyk is too old. He’ll retire after he fights Fury twice.
     
  3. Kell Macabe

    Kell Macabe I don’t know s*** about boxing Full Member

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    I agree that this specific scenario won’t happen because Usyk is too old. But if he was to pull this off he’s a lock top 5 ATG heavyweight.
     
  4. Apollo GOAT

    Apollo GOAT Member banned Full Member

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    He would certainly be rated above the likes of Dempsey, Marciano and probably Klitschko.

    I would still rate him firmly behind guys like Lennox Lewis, Evander Holyfield and Ezard Charles
     
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  5. CooperKupp

    CooperKupp “B.. but they all playin NBA basketball again!” Full Member

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    LOL!! Just curious but do you also have Usyk ‘Firmly’ behind Holyfield in the GOAT cruiser weight debate??? :lol:

    To the OP I think if Usyk were to pull this off (He’d have to somewhat stay active on no long breaks at this stage) he’d be a definite top 5 ATG heavyweight. To have the amateur career he had along with staying undefeated at Heavyweight and doing what he’s done in the amount of fights he’s had! Along with being the great ambassador of the sport and to his country… Its really unheard of. He’d be Top 5 for sure.

    Also throw in the fact he’s basically done all this in his opponents backyards! Come on.
     
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  6. Apollo GOAT

    Apollo GOAT Member banned Full Member

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    He is firmly behind Holyfield at CW. I'm sorry but Dwight Braxton is eons above anyone Usyk faced at CW, and Holyfield had to fight him 15 rounds in the first fight.
     
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  7. CooperKupp

    CooperKupp “B.. but they all playin NBA basketball again!” Full Member

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    :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:



    Lol
     
  8. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    As a heavy, top ten for cleaning out a division and going undefeated.

    Pfp, uber-elite along with Robinson, Louis, Ali, Leonard, Duran, Greb, Armstrong...
     
  9. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It won't happen. But playing along ...

    Evander Holyfield won all the cruiserweight belts, moved up to heavyweight, won the World Heavyweight Title, and he made successful title defenses (over three separate reigns) against Lennox Lewis, Mike Tyson, George Foreman, Larry Holmes, Michael Moorer ... and also Bert Cooper and Vaughn Bean.

    Lewis, Holmes, Foreman and Tyson are arguably four of the top 10 heavyweights of all time. Evander successfully defended against all four of them.

    Would you rate successful defenses against Joshua, Fury, Wilder, Hrgovic and Dubois higher than Lewis, Tyson, Foreman, Holmes and Moorer?

    I guess it depends on where you'd rank Joshua, Fury, Wilder, Hrgovic and Dubois all-time.

    Also, how high would you rate a guy all-time at heavyweight with only 25 wins and only half of them at the weight?

    There aren't a lot of boxers at the top of the all-time heavyweight lists with only about a dozen or so heavyweight fights, which is about what Usyk would have in this scenario.

    Honestly, should Usyk and Fury fight next and Fury demolishes him, I think Usyk really won't be remembered as a great heavyweight any more than Michael Spinks is remembered as a great heavyweight today.

    So, if Usyk wants to be remembered at heavyweight, he better win.
     
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  10. Mordechai

    Mordechai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Usyk is already the cruiser goat
    He beat the super-sized heavy specimen joshua twice and after his win against the super size h2h nightmare fury (there will be no rematch) he is imo the heavy goat!!!
     
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  11. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    Top 10 I'd say.

    No where near enough time at heavyweight to earn top 5. Joshua and Fury would be two fantastic wins, but fighting 4 opponents at heavyweight, 2 of which are nobodies, isn't enough time at this level to earn top 5.

    Top 10 maybe.
     
  12. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Holyfield never made any defenses vs Lewis, first fight was a disgusting robbery event though it was a draw
     
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  13. hobby rider

    hobby rider Well-Known Member Full Member

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    There will be a 1 way rematch clause if Usyk wins, it just depends on if he takes it or just retires.
     
  14. Mordechai

    Mordechai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fury will not take a rematch. Usyk will school him really bad
     
  15. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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    Successful defence against Lennox ?

    Behave yourself.