Usyk's new style?

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  1. Mister Pugilist

    Mister Pugilist Active Member Full Member

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    seems like he gained some muscle and is loading up on his punches more, although sacrificing speed, he seemed a tad slower in this fight then previous fights
     
  2. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Similar to 70s Ali, and post-title Patterson.
     
  3. Tyson379

    Tyson379 Active Member Full Member

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    This style is better for HW unless he's fighting Joshua or Fury.

    Would have easily KOd Chisora if he was bigger like this, I remember him having Chisora on ***** street but unable to finish him off during the fight.
     
  4. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    Usyk has been incrementally modifying himself and his style in accordance to age onset deteriorations -

    This has been happening for a quite while now and is a going concern in so far as further, future adjustments being made in compensation of/for further deteriorations.

    It seems to date that it has allowed him to maintain the net sum of his parts at the least but he may be approaching, if he hasn’t already hit, a terminal ceiling in that regard -

    Meaning, he may not be able to adequately cover further deteriorations with adjustments to other features in his game - though he is uber tough, he might have to tap that particular attribute more as time goes….not the way to go, just imo.

    Even if in victory, taking more punishment signals the time to get out, imo. In fact, I think it’s the perfect time to get out.

    Many pundits say - but look at him, there’s nothing wrong - well yeah, exactly - why wait til a fight when during the course of same, something is upheld to be somewhat “wrong”.

    That type of thinking “No, maka sense!”…but then the pundits aren’t the ones in there taking the shots - with their current and future healths on the line…are they?
     
  5. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah, he's making the big guys chase after him and turning into a counter puncher sitting down on his shots more. He was looking more massive in training and better than ever before in the ring despite being 38. I may get some pushback but I am starting to suspect he's on PEDs, I think they all are, everyone in the top 10 is on something IMO
     
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  6. tragedy

    tragedy Active Member Full Member

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    He's 38. Take all the steroids you want at that point.
     
  7. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    He's always been versatile and had numerous different styles and he can adapt to the style he's facing

    And for those that say all you have to do to beat him is to pressure him and put him on the backfoot. He can box your ears off and walk you into big counters. He can box on the backfoot as well as anyone

    Just watch the first round and observe how skilful and elusive he is and how at the end of the round he slips all those punches in the corner

    This is the last time Usyk lost a fight.

    How did he lose it?

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    And that guy who 'beat' him was a great amateur. Olympic gold medalist. World Amateur gold medalist & bronze, 2 x European gold medalist

    “I do believe if [Usyk] goes on the back foot, he wins every single round,” said Bellew. “He's the hardest man in the world to hit. If you let Oleksandr Usyk go on the back foot and you press him all night, you're in trouble, you're not going to catch him.



    “Just watch the Murat Gassiev fight,” said Bellew, citing Usyk’s virtual shutout victory over the feared power-punching Gassiev, who struggled to land anything of consequence, “and you'll understand that's why I chose to box him. Chasing him is the worst thing in the world you could do.”

    --Tony Bellew
     
  8. CodeRedDanger

    CodeRedDanger New Member banned Full Member

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    He has so many different styles. He can adapt and change to any opponent. Boxing Genius.
     
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  9. BCS8

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    Same style as always. The change is that he is getting older and slower. Yeah, he is picking up muscle but I've always valued speed and reflexes in boxing over raw power.
     
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  10. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    For sure he changed his style. Since the first AJ fight he has implemented a lot more head and upper body movement, his counter punching has also improved in the last few years, as well as his clinch and inside game.

    He is certainly a bit slower with his punches and his feet but I wouldn’t say he has declined yet, he’s adjusted.
     
  11. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Usyk has got bigger, planted himself more and is comfortable not having to move so much in front of these big lump lumbering heavyweights. Just half a step and he's out of range then counteirng. He can manage 700 punches over the distance if he wants but against heavyweight can go down to 500-600 and still comfortably outwork pretty much anyone. With someone like Dubious I doubt stamina was even on his mind. He wasn't even really trying in that fight because Dubious wasn't very effective at finding him so it was a wait till Dubious blows moment yet again and then land some nukes. Uysk looks comfortable in there very confident. Doesn't need to be overly defensive anymore and gives these dossers confidence to chase haphazardly.

    Fury was really the first of the lot who Usyk knew he had to chase down all night no matter what and even when he walked into the fire kept going through it...now he's emerged and nothing is putting him on the backfoot again. He's transcended not to be trifled with.
     
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  12. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Usyk can't box on the backfoot

    Except he not only can, and has been doing it throughout his entire career, but he can do so beautifully

    Usyk simultaneously gets hit a lot whilst we've never really seen him get hit

    Which is it?

    He doesn't have an iron jaw or a great defence

    Which is it?

    He obviously has both

    Uysk has no power


    Four of the seven fighters to take him the distance have never been stopped, three of them have never been off their feet

    And we all know Chisora, despite having been knocked out or stopped a bunch of times, is teak-tough and IIRC has only been dropped by three fighters in his career. Both of Chisora's KO losses came against huge punchers

    So that just leaves Glowacki who was undefeated, prime and active at the time and all his subsequent inside schedule losses, 2 of which when past his prime, came against huge punchers in Briedis, Okolie and Riakporhe and the later 2 were gigantic CWs whereas Glowacki used to come in a few pounds over the CW limit

    And AJ who has been stopped once, and KO'd once, by a massive puncher who weighed just under 250lbs. Wlad, Povetkin, J-Park, and Whyte couldn't stop AJ either and whilst Wlad and Povetkin were old and past their best they were still devastating punchers


    James Ali Bashir who trained the CW version of Usyk

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    Usyk knocked out Dubois x 2
    Came within a whisker of knocking out Belly
    Hurt AJ with single shots and combos
    Hurt Chisora with a combo

    And he knocked the granite-jawed Dave Allen out on his feet with a solitary left hand

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    All of whom are obviously way bigger than him
     
  13. ForemanJab

    ForemanJab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think he was just really wanted to hurt Dubois for his disrespect. Like when Pacquiao beat the **** out of Margacheato (sorry CJ) for mocking Freddie Roach’s Parkinson’s disease.
     
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  14. Cafe

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    He seems slower but his punches have more weight to them I feel too which I think is a good tradeoff.