Utter ruination of young prodigies

And I wouldn't have liked his chances against either of those guys given the circumstances after the Jirov fight. I really liked Baby Joe.

 

Miguel Vasquez schooling Lenny Zappavigna.

 

Arslan - Drozd
Wlod- Chakhkiev
McCall - Maskaev?

I'll think of a few more.

 

RJJ ruined Montel Griffin,Glen Kelly.

 

You can also add Jose "The Threat" Baret. Somewhat touted, have a look at his record post Starling. Simon Brown got thrown in with him too but went reasonably well and was better for the experience. He Also made a substantial leap up to Starling.

 

You can also add Jose "The Threat" Baret. Somewhat touted, have a look at his record post Starling. Simon Brown got thrown in with him too but went reasonably well and was better for the experience. He Also made a substantial leap up to Starling.

 

Lubin looked OK but his management tried to capitalize on the vacuum that was happening before he was ready.....he will be OK if the rebuild him right and let him mature into that level but if they throw him back to the wolves of the division again and he gets stopped again and then they try to squeeze more quick money out of him then yeah he will be in Vargas waters....lucky for him the fight with Charlo was quick and not prolonged unlike Vargas

The Moore-Duran fight still lingers in my mind as a fighter thrown into a pitbull fight and his corner let him take a vicious beating one that still bothers me too watch

Arguello-Mancini- I thought this was way to early for Mancini but he did well and of course the great Arguello stopped in harsh fashion.....but Mancini proved good resilience for his style

I think the cruelty of this whole thing is a journeyman knows he is a journeyman and expects to be the fight to build the other guys career on.....young talents many times are at the mercy of a greedy promoter/manager who doesn't now how to develop a good talent and takes a bold chance against a tiger when they do the fighter gets hurt and normally instead of rebuilding the guy they seem to go full force squeezing as much as they can out of a guy who with good management may have made a fortune.....the psychological damage on a fighter with hopes of being a champion taking beatings enroute to losses without a corner who will pull the plug on a lost cause and reset....most of these guys are not the old school tough guys the realists winning and losing on their own terms like Walcott, etc....and if they make it they make it if not the know their place.

 

Lubin looked OK but his management tried to capitalize on the vacuum that was happening before he was ready.....he will be OK if the rebuild him right and let him mature into that level but if they throw him back to the wolves of the division again and he gets stopped again and then they try to squeeze more quick money out of him then yeah he will be in Vargas waters....lucky for him the fight with Charlo was quick and not prolonged unlike Vargas

The Moore-Duran fight still lingers in my mind as a fighter thrown into a pitbull fight and his corner let him take a vicious beating one that still bothers me too watch

Arguello-Mancini- I thought this was way to early for Mancini but he did well and of course the great Arguello stopped in harsh fashion.....but Mancini proved good resilience for his style

I think the cruelty of this whole thing is a journeyman knows he is a journeyman and expects to be the fight to build the other guys career on.....young talents many times are at the mercy of a greedy promoter/manager who doesn't now how to develop a good talent and takes a bold chance against a tiger when they do the fighter gets hurt and normally instead of rebuilding the guy they seem to go full force squeezing as much as they can out of a guy who with good management may have made a fortune.....the psychological damage on a fighter with hopes of being a champion taking beatings enroute to losses without a corner who will pull the plug on a lost cause and reset....most of these guys are not the old school tough guys the realists winning and losing on their own terms like Walcott, etc....and if they make it they make it if not the know their place.

 

Robin Givens ruined Mike Tyson.

 

Egerton Marcus at the hand of MASKE!

 

Egerton Marcus at the hand of MASKE!

 

Prince Naz at the hands of MAB.