Utter ruination of young prodigies

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    The last I heard from him was a decade ago, when he rattled off a streak of three KO1's in a row and was vehemently calling out then-champs Samuel Peter & Wlad K., and begging Eliot Spitzer to intervene with the NYSAC to reinstate his boxing license so he could generate big-bucks in his Empire State home (and build up interest for either of the aforementioned title challenges)
     
  2. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    And I wouldn't have liked his chances against either of those guys given the circumstances after the Jirov fight. I really liked Baby Joe.
     
  3. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    I think he could've lasted the distance with Peter, but it might've killed him in the long run.
     
  4. stiflers mum

    stiflers mum Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Miguel Vasquez schooling Lenny Zappavigna.
     
  5. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    Arslan - Drozd
    Wlod- Chakhkiev
    McCall - Maskaev?

    I'll think of a few more.
     
  6. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Dmitrii Chudinov ought not to have been put in with CEJ when he was. His only experience was versus faded also-rans (Brewer, Bouadla), an undefeated but untested kid in Nielsen, and Max "Posterboy for Useful Domestic Journeymen" Maxwell. CEJ meanwhile had already shown his true class in the loss to Saunders.

    Chud and his brother Fedor were supposed to co-reign like mini Klitschkos. Instead he's 31 and losing to 45 year old Lolenga Mock.
     
  7. stiflers mum

    stiflers mum Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    RJJ ruined Montel Griffin,Glen Kelly.
     
  8. JohnThomas1

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    You can also add Jose "The Threat" Baret. Somewhat touted, have a look at his record post Starling. Simon Brown got thrown in with him too but went reasonably well and was better for the experience. He Also made a substantial leap up to Starling.
     
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  9. JohnThomas1

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    You can also add Jose "The Threat" Baret. Somewhat touted, have a look at his record post Starling. Simon Brown got thrown in with him too but went reasonably well and was better for the experience. He Also made a substantial leap up to Starling.
     
  10. richdanahuff

    richdanahuff Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lubin looked OK but his management tried to capitalize on the vacuum that was happening before he was ready.....he will be OK if the rebuild him right and let him mature into that level but if they throw him back to the wolves of the division again and he gets stopped again and then they try to squeeze more quick money out of him then yeah he will be in Vargas waters....lucky for him the fight with Charlo was quick and not prolonged unlike Vargas

    The Moore-Duran fight still lingers in my mind as a fighter thrown into a pitbull fight and his corner let him take a vicious beating one that still bothers me too watch

    Arguello-Mancini- I thought this was way to early for Mancini but he did well and of course the great Arguello stopped in harsh fashion.....but Mancini proved good resilience for his style

    Billy Collins Jr-Luis Resto- Collins was matched too win but why his father after seeing the unreal damage let it go so long baffles me......Resto was not that hard of a puncher and Collins Sr should have questioned Resto's gloves....instead he let it go the distance and then protested either way the damage was irreversible and had Jr not crashed and died he more than likely was done as a talent.

    I think the cruelty of this whole thing is a journeyman knows he is a journeyman and expects to be the fight to build the other guys career on.....young talents many times are at the mercy of a greedy promoter/manager who doesn't now how to develop a good talent and takes a bold chance against a tiger when they do the fighter gets hurt and normally instead of rebuilding the guy they seem to go full force squeezing as much as they can out of a guy who with good management may have made a fortune.....the psychological damage on a fighter with hopes of being a champion taking beatings enroute to losses without a corner who will pull the plug on a lost cause and reset....most of these guys are not the old school tough guys the realists winning and losing on their own terms like Walcott, etc....and if they make it they make it if not the know their place.
     
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  11. stiflers mum

    stiflers mum Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Robin Givens ruined Mike Tyson.:D
     
  12. Seamus

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    Egerton Marcus at the hand of MASKE!
     
  13. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Egerton Marcus at the hand of MASKE!
     
  14. stiflers mum

    stiflers mum Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Prince Naz at the hands of MAB.
     
  15. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    A late 20s "prodigy" with poor training habits who won the last fight of his career?