Utter ruination of young prodigies

Garcia vs Salka?

And every time I read the title of this thread, I always read “Utter urination” lol
(Sorry sorry )

 

Good point but Naz was heavily favoured and he wasn't the same after that fight(only fought once). MAB ruined him.

 

He was favored, but his last great performance was against Bungu and he looked like crap against Augie Sanchez leading up to Barrera. He hadn't consistently performed well since McCullough years earlier. He beat Calvo in his last fight with a sloppy wide points win, pretty much the same as the Cesar Soto fight.

 

In a way, one hard punch from Edwin Rosario ruined Hector Camacho's career. Before Rosario, he looked like a future all-time great, atter that he cherry picked mediocre opposition and picked up lesser versions of world titles so that he didn't have to fight the very best.

 

I must have missed this Good thread. I nearly got to see Graylin fight live. Dave Gorman put on an open air card in Ft Worth Tx. Graylin Gene Hatcher & Freddie Guzman were in fights at end of career. That was the night of the terrible Texas hailstorm. No kidding was hailstones big as softballs with spikes
think it was 94 0r95 Lots of folks hurt totalled my Ranger truck; dents all over
Poor old Dave lost his ass onthat one

 

Sad situation in Hamsho vs WB. Sadly, WB should have never been matched in a fight above 154 at that stage of his career. He was already showing signs of the results of his fights then by what we know today. And Hamsho was basically a SMW fighting at 160 in those days.

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as another previously great fighter gets demolished for $$$$.

1983-07-16 : Wilfred Benitez 157¾ lbs lost to Mustafa Hamsho 158 lbs by UD in round 12 of 12

• Location: Dunes Hotel, Las Vegas, Nevada, USA
• Referee: Davey Pearl
• Judge: Lou Tabat 109-118
• Judge: Chuck Minker 111-118
• Judge: Dalby Shirley 111-117

Promoter: Don King (Don King Production

• The fight took place in an outdoor stadium at the Dunes Hotel on a day when the temperature was 101°.
• In early 1983, Benitez split with his father, Gregorio Benitez, who had trained him since his first day in the gym, and hired Victor Machado as his new trainer. Later, Cus D'Amato was brought in as an adviser.

• D'Amato said, "Benitez can punch a lot harder than people think. But he doesn't punch; he just comes out to outbox opponents with his smarts. I talked to him about moving side to side and punching." Pat Putnam of Sports Illustrated reported: "During training, Benitez showed no inclination to adopt D'Amato's suggestion."
• Two months earlier, in his first fight as a middleweight, Benitez defeated Tony Cerda by a 10-round decision. Pat Putnam called Benitez's performance "dismal."
• Tim Dahlberg of the Associated Press reported: "Benitez was thoroughly dominated Saturday by Hamsho, the World Boxing Council's top-ranked challenger, who used his strength and brawling style to pin Benitez in his corner through much of the bout in taking a unanimous 12-round decision. From the opening bell, when Hamsho backed Benitez into his corner, he dominated the fight, throwing punches from every direction while Benitez answered with only weak counterpunches that had little effect on Hamsho. . . . Neither fighter seemed seriously hurt during the bout, although Benitez appeared stunned in the third round when he was pushed or wrestled to the canvas four times. Referee Davey Pearl ruled no knockdowns and warned Hamsho to stop pulling and pushing Benitez. Hamsho, 157¾, ran his record to 37-2-2, while Benitez, 157¾, fell to 44-3-1. Hamsho received $200,000 and Benitez $150,000 for the fight."
• The Associated Press scored the fight 119-111 for Hamsho, and Sports Illustrated had it 120-107 for Hamsho.
• Jim Jacobs, Benitez's manager, said after the fight, "You keep moving up and up until finally you reach a plateau where the people are stronger and tougher. Hamsho was much stronger than Wilfred. I think this fight dictated that Wilfred will fight as a junior middleweight."

 

Could a case be stated for Tyrell Biggs after being caned by Tyson. Lost to anyone decent he faced after that. And some not so decent

 

The Eastern European haters are trying to get Lomachenko to fight Joshua next.................they want him to fail.

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John Collins thrown in against Tony Sibson

 

John Collins. Was being primed for a showdown with Marvin Hagler.
They put him in with Tony Sibson who in his last fight had being beaten
by Hagler in which was arguably his finest performance.
Sibson ko Collins in 2 rds and was never the same afterwards.