Valero? can boxing tip people over the edge?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by errol chin, Apr 23, 2010.


  1. errol chin

    errol chin Member Full Member

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    Boxing has for years brought out the best and worst in people, some of you lot know more cases than me so i wont bother listing the casualties. What has been done in the past to help the volitile nature of the fighters in order to help prevent...nightmare scenarios such as the Edwin Valero case occurring again?


    Errol Chin
     
  2. TG1

    TG1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This guy was just a ****in scumbag!

    It has nothing to do with the sport!
     
  3. Badgeronimous

    Badgeronimous Will you stand? Full Member

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    I think the background of a large number of pro fighters means it is inevitable that you'll get the occasional person like Valero in boxing.

    It's just how it is.
     
  4. mugen82

    mugen82 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He was just a sick *******, he had a cracked skull, was high on drugs and alcohol all the time, and most probably had ink poisoning from all those goddamned tattoo's he had.

    And he thought it was ok to have a mullet in the year 2010.
     
  5. P.4.P.G.O.A.T.

    P.4.P.G.O.A.T. Q Boro Killa Bee Full Member

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    He was definitely a sociopath with or without boxing. Plus i truly believe his mortocycle accident contributed to his insanity. No wonder why so many states would not license him to fight.
     
  6. whoupicking?

    whoupicking? Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well getting hit over the head could have some psychological effects, but this is not clinically proven.
     
  7. bkamins

    bkamins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Come now. Violent sports naturally attract some violent individuals. Now, most of them are disciplined enough to control it. But Velero, Jack Lamotta, Tyson, et al, have long histories of violence against women and street brawls.
     
  8. bkamins

    bkamins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Come now, that's an old myth. I assume you're referring to the old idea that damage to the frontal lobe causes sociopathic tendencies. :roll:
     
  9. WatchfortheHook

    WatchfortheHook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In a way, I think boxing has helped a lot of violent individuals grab a hold of their lives and instill discipline. Naturally, like all forms of "help", it fails at times (as the above poster said Valero, Lamotta, Tyson). Overall, I think it has done more harm than good.

    Valero is obviously a different case. He had certifiable brain damage, apparently a drug problem, and a drinking problem. Not a great mix of problems.
     
  10. Larryboys

    Larryboys Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Repeatedly getting hit in the head can't be good for you, it's clearly changed fighters speech and reaction times over the years so it could do some kind of damage that would lead to a guy having a shorter fuse perhaps. But then was Valero ever on the receiving end of that much punishment? He was probably a pretty unstable guy to begin with.
     
  11. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    I met him after his motorcycle accident..He was normal from what I observed.... Almost without a doubtm it had to have been mostly because of the drugs and alcohol.
     
  12. Irelandsthebest

    Irelandsthebest Active Member Full Member

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    You could ask that about any profession if someone that was involved in that had just done what he done.
     
  13. vibit

    vibit Active Member Full Member

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    Good point. I'm also attracted to boxing, I wonder if I have violent tendencies. I'm almost tempted to call former girlfriends to ask them what they think.
     
  14. bkamins

    bkamins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't agree with the bump on the head equals killer theory. Then again, I'm sure Ted Bundy was quite nice and charming when he met people in public. The experts call it a mask of sanity...something all killers must have. Even though they're clinically not insane, which is a bit ironic...no?
     
  15. bkamins

    bkamins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think you're probably okay. There's big difference between being entertained by violence and actually enjoying doing violence to others. Most killers really enjoy hurting people, or they simply cannot control themselves.