Valero v. Bradley: Who wins?

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  1. Bar

    Bar Member Full Member

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    Would need to see how Valero's power carries up to 140 before I could say. Right now I would lean towards Bradley by UD
     
  2. Antwuan Maxx

    Antwuan Maxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mosquera was a world champion when Valero stopped him at 130. Pitalua on the other hand, should been have been lineal champ at lightweight when Valero knocked him out, considering he destroyed Santa Cruz, who had been jobbed against Casamayor.


    Decent names, but nothing noteworthy, and two of them(Torres-Holt II, Witter-Kotelnik) had bogus outcomes. Still are they better resumes than DeMarco, Mosquera, and Pitalua? Yeah, I'd agree... but like I said..not by much.

    By the way, that was Harris' third defeat.
     
  3. snakeface

    snakeface The Woodside Hurricane Full Member

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    i think the inactivity and no visa in america has a lot to do with valero fighting unheard of's

    they are investing in him now almost as much as bradley... there is a buzz and now showtime picked him up...expect some cats to get hurt up.

    they'll be a bunch of fights in mexico. till he becomes a bigger star and arum puts the right cash in the right hands.

    I'll even give that piece of **** arum some props if he can make that happen...untill then...he's a smiley ****face.
     
  4. snakeface

    snakeface The Woodside Hurricane Full Member

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    the situation:


    Valero was a distinguished amateur in his home country of Venezuela. He was a multi-time national champion, as well as Central American and South American champion. In the amateur ranks, he defeated future mega-prospect Pancho Bojado.


    Credit: Tom Casino / Showtime
    Prior to turning pro, he suffered a skull fracture in a motorcycle accident. Surgery was required to treat a blood clot. Nevertheless, he was cleared to box professionally in his native Venezuela. After a string of first-round knockouts he was signed by Golden Boy Promotions and looked to take his career to the next level. He failed a pre-fight MRI and was denied a license. The deal with GBP was scratched and Valero was left looking for answers, effectively banned from fighting in the U.S.

    He returned to Venezuela and continued his winning ways. He soon developed a promotional base in Japan, fighting there five times. He also fought in Mexico, France, and Panama, becoming somewhat of a world traveler.

    Knockout Streak
    Valero not only has a 100% knockout percentage, but he also holds the record for the most consecutive first-round knockouts to begin a career. He opened his career with 18 consecutive first-round knockouts!

    Rising to the Top
    After having his first-round knockout streak stopped by Gonzalo Trazancos, who got into the second round with Valero before getting whacked out, Valero took on a pretty decent fighter in Vicente Mosquera for his WBA Super Featherweight Championship. Valero rose from a third-round knockdown to stop Mosquera in the 10th round to win his first world title. Valero defended his crown 4 times, all by knockout.

    Coming Back to America
    Valero was able to procure a boxing license in the state of Texas, where a fight was scheduled with 46-3 Antonio Pitalua for the vacant WBC Lightweight Title. With 40 knockouts on his record, Pitalua was considered a dangerous, though aging opponent. A comprehensive 2nd-round knockout earned him his second world title. The fact that the fight was in Texas also indicated that maybe the door was open for him to return to the U.S. for more big fights. Thee Showtime spot also gave him some exposure in the States.

    Recent Form
    In his first defense, Valero stopped tough Mexican Hector Velasquez in seven rounds. His next opponent would be Antonio DeMarco, a tough top contender with good skills and power. Valero opened well, but was soon busted up, his worst cut being a horrific gash on his forehead from a wayward DeMarco elbow. Soon, he was bleeding from a collection of cuts on his face.

    Valero showed the poise of a true champion. The cuts did not appear to bother him significantly and he attacked DeMarco with hunger and desire. With each passing round, DeMarco’s cause grew increasingly hopeless. Valero showed angles, threw combinations, and rattled DeMarco with his power. He showed a lot of “want to” while revealing a different side of himself. He wasn’t the one-dimensional wrecking-ball some made him out to be. He was clever, shifty, somewhat fluid, and flashed decent hand speed. DeMarco’s corner wisely kept him on the stool before the beginning of the 10th round.

    Future
    His ability to fight in the U.S. is still hampered by his failed MRI and legal issues. The DeMarco fight was supposed to be in the U.S. but a drunk driving charge in Las Vegas was cited as the reason for denying him a visa. If that ever gets cleared up, it remains to be seen if he could get a license in California, Nevada, or New York, states with a ton of big-time boxing action.

    Even without the commissions’ blessings, Valero has managed to become one of the top lightweights in the world, perhaps only behind Juan Manuel Marquez. With Marquez aging and having not fought at lightweight for a while, Valero could become the top guy. He has expressed a desire to move up, however, so we’ll see how it all plays out. It should be fun.
     
  5. Antwuan Maxx

    Antwuan Maxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol:

    But yeah, don't forgot he's licensed to fight in Texas now, too.
     
  6. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    Are people actually not counting the Campbell fight on Bradley's resume? Bradley was DOMINATING that fight. Not his fault it got stopped on a butt. I realize it's officially a no contest, but that one's as good as a win to me.

    I'd definitely lean Bradley right now, but I'd want to see how Valero's power carries up. I do think Valero has a style that could give Bradley some problems, but Bradley's been fighting so much smarter lately that I think he could probably just outbox Valero from the outside most of the fight.
     
  7. snakeface

    snakeface The Woodside Hurricane Full Member

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    i wouldn't headbutt valero if i was bradley....he wouldn't like valero when he's angry
     
  8. Antwuan Maxx

    Antwuan Maxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bradley didn't dominate until Campbell was cut from a clash of heads. He won rounds one and two by outworking Nate, but was still landing nothing significant. Most of his flurries were landing on arms and elbows.