Valero, Vargas and Pacquiao

fair enough despite the blooper. Valero was well received and well liked here in our country.

 

That's cool. Perhaps he meant the president had him checked but it did happen. It was through a translator so it could have been misinterpreted. I don't speak Spanish as good now. I use to understand it better.

 

You do realize though that it is almost unheard of for a fighter to be completely shot at Vargas' age though? I mean he already shows signs of slurring words and things. There is maybe a handfull of fighters that have ever been that bad that early.

 

Most fighters show some pugilistic dementia late in age but Vargas was an extreme case. There was a thread about it a few days ago.

 

Bad prophecy! Hopefully you're a false prophet.:-(

 

:good:good

 

off the topic...

somebody noticed here that jeff m, nallege, and allblack got "LOL" most of the time at the end of their statements???

:think:think

sorry scatter to cut your thread.

 

Harrison, I don't know who is the worst *******, you or Borj?:think

 

vargas >>>>>>>> valero

 

I haven't noticed much non-Jeff cheerleading for Valero - is there a groundswell of fanboy support I've overlooked? I give him the benefit of the doubt on the doctor gaffe... it's amazing how many people I've bumped into think all Filipinas are nurses. :nut "Hangers-on," though, is quite an unfair term for the causes Manny gives money to. Besides, it's not like his entourage is full of nepotism and no-show jobs (something we know well here in NJ); those bodyguards definitely earn that pay!

All three fighters have had vastly different attitudes and mindsets, so it's hard to contrast and compare.

- I agree on Valero: we'll probably never know how great he could really be, since there aren't all that many years left for him to physically improve.
- I always thought Vargas had such a huge chip on his shoulder that it would blind him against anyone who wouldn't simply stand toe-to-toe with him.
- Pacquiao's a friggin' wunderkind. If his overcoming of early losses leads to the evolution we've seen in his boxing and comfort level, where's his political career going to end up? :shock: I have absolutely no idea how he holds up under all that pressure when he's back home. He's always going to be beatable, just like Valero and Vargas (though, of course, in quite different ways), but his mindset and fanbase is too broad to crumble all at once from the inevitable defeats.

 

That's just delusion setting in. I'm going to make a big thread someday with every quote about how wrong you were so keep giving me ammunition Enzo!:nut

 

I don't care... coz every thread you make is a joke! nobody takes you seriously.

 

vargas was a waste but to compare valero to vargas in this stage of his career is stupid. vargas might not have achieved his full potential but at least he fought the best during his time. who has valero beat in fact who has he fought? Tomato cans and taxi drivers!