Valero vs Gamboa - WBA Super Featherweight Title

I think they are after the WBC now. If PacMan moves up and stays at LW, he'll vacate.

 

Guzman vacated his title as well, so the SFW division could get a tad bit interesting.. You think Valero would try to go for those vacant titles and end up fighting Gamboa for one of them?

I'd pick Valero to win at this point.. Couldn't tell you how though..

 

Team Gamboa doesn't want any parts of Valero ... thats why they decided to pick up the WBC int. belt ... I think the idea of Pacquiao vacating his title gives them the opportunity to fight a top contender for a vacant belt.

Valero v Gamboa isn't going to happen and team Gamboa should send PacMan and TopRank and thank you letter for allowing them to fight for a vacant title instead of facing a reigning champion. Unlike many other prospects and contenders ... not facing a champion doesn't say much about Gamboa as a fighter.

I think that despite what Gambao thinks about Valero's boxing skills, his boxing skills aren't all that either. And with his inability to keep his hands up -- he's going to be very vulnerable against Valero ... Valero is very fast and may have the edge on speed. With his apparent flaws Gamboa runs the risk of getting knocked out.

If Jiminez can take adavantage of that - what do you think a world champion is going to do?

Especially a guy as strong as Valero ... every knows he has power despite who he fought ... this guy has power ... you seen it in his sparring clips ... he's sparred against some very good fighters ... and he's hurt them.

Valero gave Erik Morales a whirl during a sparring session.

 

If you know boxing ... one thing that gets overlooked is the quality of a gym rat ... who trains alot, keeps himself in great shape, and gets great competition in sparring.

I think Erik Morales is better than Gamboa and Valero has sparred against him.

Look at Andre Dirrell for instance ... sparring against Anthony Hanshaw and Chad Dawson ... it gives you the experience of working on your skills against world class fighters. Nothing is better than that ...

I'm sure that Valero would be able to adjust faster than Gamboa during a fight who I think would have to get hurt to realize what he's doing wrong.

I think that Gamboa - if he takes a big leap in class - he will more than likely get knocked out. You can't give an opponent any opening ... he will take adavantage and tap that chin.

 

Valero is nothing special, save for power, which won't matter here. Gamboa would swarm him and crack his shaky chin very quickly, most people here haven't even seen Valero, he's sloppy and uncoordinated.

 

I think Gamboa is a little more proven than Valero.. Both fighters need a lot of work to do though.. No doubt both fighters would get rocked a lot..

 

Hey look i'm not going to say that Valero is nothing when he has a world title.

Gamboa isn't doing anything special ... he's overhyped and he has alot of room to grow.

Now I just read that he's going to be on a collision course with Valero and thats the biggest mistake that Gamboa and his team can make.

This guy holds his hands down at any moment he's going to get knocked out and Valero won't have to have much power to do that. Jimenez knocked him down and hit him alot ... I don't get why he's getting such praise by some of you guys.

He's good physically but as far as a boxing stand point - he doesn't have much room to grow ... he's 28 - if he hasn't learned how to keep his hands up now - I don't see him doing it on a consistant basis on the championship level. This guy is going to get KO'd ...

Jiminez is slower than Valero, not as strong, doesn't have as good of footwork ...

What are you going to say about Gamboa once he gets knocked out by Valero ... that both of them are bums?

Yeah i'm talking to you amsterdam ... what are you going to say?

This guy is tailor made for Valero ...

 

I don't get what you're saying ... how do you determine if a guy is proven in 10 fights? ...

and how is he more proven than a world champion? ... no matter who Valero fought - he has fought and he's been hit ... he's beat a champion for his strap ...

Its gets no more proven than that ...

 

i guess some voters are basing this on valero's perceived "experience" advantage over gamboa? take into account there are so many unanswered questions about valero at this point as well. the guy has never gone past 5 rds, if i'm not mistaken. his quality of opponents have been extremely poor for a title holder. just watch video of him and you'll see he lunges in with his left, ala pac, but doesnt posses the speed pac does which allows him ot get away with it. his right is what can be described as wide and looping. also, his defense is non existent. a real puncher like barrios would have valero out of there in a hurry. if soto wants a nice bounceback fight, he should go after the vulnerable valero's belt.

 

If we know one thing is that Valero has good power. Gamboa is good - but we just seen that his defense could use some working on. If he get's caught by Valero clean - that might be the end of the fight. But if he boxes - it should be an easy night for him.

I would like to see Valero fight someone that's a real threat to him - since I've only seen him fight once. I'm pretty much going by what I've read of him.

 

Gamboa won't fight Valero the same way he fought Jimenez. He will just win rounds and win a decision.

 

He's in great shape and has the endurance and stamina to go the full 12 rounds.

This guy (Valero) is very fast I don't know where you get that he's not that fast ... this guy has tremendous speed ... with his hands and his feet.

Barrios is too slow ... he can't handle Valero ... one clean shot could end anyone's night ... If they get into an exchange then its good night for Barrios ... its not like Barrios can box ... he's a brawler who looks to exchange and he's not at all fast. He would be tailor made for Valero --

Where is Gamboa's defense ... to be a championship contender - you shouldn't be in tough fights with guys that aren't on your level ... no matter what you think - a guy like Jiminez shouldn't have went the distance against Gamboa and he shouldn't have scored a knockdown against him. With the amateur pedigree of his - he doesn't seem to have the fundamentals down pact.

He drops his hands on a consistant level ... he brings his punches from underneath and his chin is exposed ... I don't care how fast you are ... you leave your chin in the air - you're bound to get hit.

You can see it in his training as well ... he doesn't bring his hands back home ... he drops them and his head and shoulder movement is non existant when it comes to an exchange.

I see team Valero taking advantage of that and getting him out of there quick and once he does I want to see what you guys hyping up Gamboa are going to say.

I'm not a hater of this guy but its very apparent to me that this guy isn't ready for a title shot. He has to fine tune his skills as a pro and it seems more and more I watch him fight that he's got some bad habits that he won't be able to shake.

 

Thats going to make him keep his hands down even more ... especially if he starts to make Valero miss ... I know based off his body language that this is a cocky guy --

Valero is great at cutting off the ring and if Gamboa thinks he's going to win on points then Valero's going to bait him into a brawl.

And once they exchange ... then its nighty night for Gamboa.

 

No more proven than that? He hasn't proved nothing.. Who did he win that title from? Mosquera? Please. Both Valero % Gamboa are overrated, especially Valero by you.. I expected you to comment on my post.. Even though I don't think all that much of Gamboa, he looks more potential and skillful than Valero.. Having power doesn't mean ****.. You act as if there is nothing for Valero to improve on.. He's not a proven fighter even if he has a title..