Valuev = most hated boxer in the history of the sport.

Given Valuev's size I'd guess him to be a true giant. As such he'd have an enlarged heart. He probably has to maintain his slow, measured pace or he'd gas out and gravity would take him out in 3 rounds. Only against weak foes can he let loose. Against quality opposition he has to maintain the jabbing giant routine and throwing any punches that would sap his stanima.

I don't mind the giant. Given the limitations he probably suffers from his sheer size and bulk he's doing the best with what he's got. What more can we ask?

 

Perhaps size really does matter.

I'll go now and wash my brain out with soap.

 

Exactly. At least Valuev fights WITHIN the rules and doesn't fake low blows. He deserves the eternal gratitude of boxing for ridding the sport of that disgraceful cheater, Ruiz.:yep

 

Because he's an overprotected fighter that won't fight the HW division's elite, and despite the height and size, most are not impressed by the hype.

 

So Marciano is respected due to his unbeaten record, and because of the people he beat to get there? If that's the case, then boxing fans are as stupid as I feared. In fact, that's a big ****ing problem with boxing today.

 

No it's not, it's not a big deal at all.

 

Several guys have matched 49-0 as a heavyweight, just they lost later in their careers. Brian Neilsen comes to mind. I'm pretty sure Ali fought someone who did as well. Nobody gives a **** about those guys, I'm pretty sure nobody would give a **** about Valuev either if it was really all cupcakes and gift decisions.

 

A guy like Valuev beating the legend's record,it's a shame.Valuev is MAYBE HOF material just cuz of his size but he will never reach the level of Marciano.Maybe to you it isn't a big deal,to me I consider it bull**** that this was close in beating his record

 

Yeah but Nielsen wasn't world champion when he did it,he would get no rcognition.Valuev was champion when he was trying to break it,luckily Chagaev came along

 

What am i reading here... Valuev is technically very good for man of his dimensions, He is an athlete and there isn't any need for any hatred at all.. I think i hate his people more (Sauerland events) and the way they conduct themselves.. But Valuev i find likeable and capable..

Jealousy is a terrible thing..

Just coz he has a big DIK...

 

I feel somewhat sorry for Valuev. I think he´s probably a very nice person. At first he was a sideshow who just worked really hard and took whatever fights he got. Later he got some management who figured to make good money of him and proceeded to match him very carefully. Valuev is very good for somebody his size, but still very limited.

I feel it´s his management who get him the easy fights and perhaps sometimes disputable wins, because they want to make money of him. I think Valuev only wants to be the best he can and fight the best he can. He has worked his *** off trying to improve and done a good job with what he has.

People - and that includes myself - tend to get annoyed with and hate boxers who receive gift decisions. We feel cheated and angry when it happens, but it´s not necessarily the boxer´s own fault. There would not have been a lot of money in Donald or Ruiz getting the nod against Valuev, so the promoters may well have had a hand in that matter.

Because of the close or questionable decisions and just the fact you feel Valuev may feel Valuev suck for not being able to KOTFO of all his much smaller opponents (there´s usually a bit of sympathy for the David who fights the Goliath as well), people tend to hate Valuev and call him overrated.
The talk of him breaking Marciano´s record also angered a lot of people because he would have been breaking it by fighting far weaker opposition. Would have been like breaking the world record at hurdles by using hurdles half the size of the normal ones really.

I don´t think he´s overrated or underrated. We kind of know where he stands. He´s not an candidate for an ATG and he´s not far from the level of the Ruizes and Donalds of the world. He is however not unworthy of a holding a belt in the splintered and weak hw division of today. I´m talking about the same division that saw Ruiz, old Rahman, Lyakhovich, Brewster, old Maskaev, old Briggs etc. holding belts as well as Oquendo, McCline and Meehan coming within inches of winning one for themselves.

What I think is true though is how promoters and managers have been trying to overhype him and make him out to be something he really isn´t. Let´s not let it get to us, because Valuev himself seems very humble about it. He has just talked about wanting to improve and for example admitted his match with Ruiz was very close. Let Valuev just be Valuev, he´s not the problem.

 

Nothing from what we have seen so far makes that a firm fact.

Dude has a rock for his head - hanging 7 feet up there.


I like Valuev. He is something different.

 

Most hated in the history of the sport is a ***** of a stretch. I don't think anyone really hates him, it's more like they are frustrated with him because given his immense size he should be able to dominate most of the opponents he faces and make sure they don't see the 12th round. Given that he's enourmous, I think his reluctance to be aggressive and the lack of punching power for his size are his handicaps.

Good guy outside the ring though. As long as he does enough to win, good for him. It wasn't his fault he grew to be so tall and that it negates most fighters gameplans...blame Valuev's parents.