Valuev to defend against Holyfield

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by OLD FOGEY, Nov 15, 2008.


  1. OLD FOGEY

    OLD FOGEY Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I personally am getting weary of these Eastern European champions fighting washed up or no hope Americans rather than each other. I don't think either Hasim Rahman or Evander Holyfield deserves a shot at this point.

    Valuev should be fighting one of the Klitschkos.
     
  2. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    Wlad fought Ibragimov. Chagaev fought Valuev and is scheduled to fight him again in 2009. Valuev fought Liakhovic. Chagaev fought Virchis. Ibragimov was scheduled to fight Chagaev, but the latter got injured.

    Wlad was about to fight Povetkin, but Povetkin got injured and Rahman was a late-substitute; it was either him or Toney, which would be an even worse mis match.

    Valuev is well-managed and deserves all **** he's getting for fighting Holyfield, but he's obviously a Don King / Sauerland puppet, who are trying to make some cheap bucks, and give boxing another black eye.



    But i think you're overreacting and generalizing to say that "these eastern europeans don't fight each other".
     
  3. OLD FOGEY

    OLD FOGEY Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fair points.

    But I would like to see the best of the Eastern Europeans fighting each other to produce a real champion.
     
  4. DamonD

    DamonD Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Oh yeah, Hasim's been getting tons of praise and backing on General...no-one's been calling him an idiot to believe he can win *cough cough*
     
  5. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Shavers barely hit Holmes in either fight excepting the terrific KD. Certainly he wasn't taking much leather. Witherspoon hit Holmes more times than Shavers did in two fights.
     
  6. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Chazz Witherspoon, Chris Areola, Eddie Chambers, Tye Fields and Kevin Johnson are the future of heavyweight boxing:yep
     
  7. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    :D

    Seriously though, I think Arreola and Chambers make good contenders, though they have to prove themselves a bit more. Chambers was in the top10, but Povetkin knocked him out of it. I wouldn't have a problem with Arreola being ranked low in the top10. Chazz Whiterspoon and Fields will never be more than fringe contenders. Haven't seen Johnson yet.
     
  8. DamonD

    DamonD Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Chambers I think can do something still. The Povetkin loss was as much to do with what Chambers did wrong as Povetkin did right. He needs to keep a firm eye on his weight and keep focused, but his boxing skills are good.

    Arreola likes knocking guys out and that aggression should get him in the title mix at some point. Still wonder what happens when he meets someone that can take his power and reply in kind...the failed Tua fight would've been a good barometer. Also weight issues.

    Chazz can box but the Arreola loss is a damaging one. Fields always seemed someone happy to be a big fish in a little pond, and once he stepped up he got knocked back down again. And Johnson I remain unconvinced by, also a keen hitter but I don't think he has much beyond that. The first couple rounds against Seldon were unimpressive and again, weight issues.
     
  9. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Agreed,

    If Witherspoon and Fields had any real talent to offer, it would have been apparent by now. Chambers and Areola are still potentially good hopefuls.
     
  10. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Chamber's is underrated and can go places in my opinion.