There are only probably TWO fights that I scored differently from others yet I don't know how to score? Kelly "the trailer park motivator" Pavlik fan?
Lol that's the beauty of it. Despite 3 foreign judges giving a majority decision. Despite the majority of the world press giving Haye the win. AND despite Valuev HIMSELF admitting defeat... People STILL claim Valuev won the fight :rofl If God himself appeared on the night holding Haye's hand aloft with his omnipotent power, people around here would STILL claim Haye lost the fight! What does a guy have to do?
Karmazin also admitted he "lost" to Spinks in the interview right after the fight when in reality EVERYONE thought he won. There are far more similar examples.
Location: North West England Don't expect ANY sane human being to take ANY posts from you seriously after looking at that right there. If Haye threw 0 punches the entire night you would still say he won because of a certain "wonderland" chant by "alive" fans and your endless cans of beers will agree with you.
If you're claiming I get behind the British fighter because I'm British, then why would I score the fight for Dirrell 114-113 against Froch? Don't assume things, it makes people look foolish.
I don't care about what people thought or think. My point is some fighters act like that after certain fights, not all say they believe they won even if the majority think they did. The point here is a similar example in Karmazin, a fighter, being negative towards his performance. What people say, specifically drunken no hopers, isn't my point.
I was surprised at the German commentary: They were saying Valuev is clearly getting outboxed. I thought Haye won, but not as clear as the cards showed. And also not as clear as the German commentators were advertising it. Usually it is the way round...
This is not an issue I'm going to live or die by. The fact is you did reply to my entire post with a sole emoticon. What you do when you read your quoted words is irrelevant here. You had a lengthy quote with a single word bolded and an emoticon at the end of it. My comment was directed at your use of an emoticon rather than an explanantion of what you disagreed with. As for the result, as I said initially, I don't care much which of these two hams got the decision. IMO, it was a gift. But no worries. Valuev was a terrible champion from a boxing point of view (Seems like a nice guy though), and it's good that he's gone from the scene. And as far as drawing attention to a specific portion when quoting, here are the last two instances where I've done this. Notice the lack of ambiguity. http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5356154#post5356154 http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5326483#post5326483
what kind of bull**** are you spouting here / this is irrelevant. holyfield didnt do better than haye, he just was more entertaining.
