Valuev's physical strength ??

as force equals mass x acceleration, its hard to see how benching is super relevant to punching power, but it should help (muscle weighs more than fat and it could conceivably make you a bit faster with the punch as long as it's not overdone). strength in the lower body is probably more helpful to quickly getting your weight behind a punch.

 

but he really can't punch. if he threw his punches tyson or at least brewster like, with his size and power he would be beheading his opponents.

 

:good

 

When I was boxing a coach I had would tell me a 12 year old could KO you so physical strength in my book does not mean that much stamina on the other hand is a different story.

 

New P4P matchup: Valuev against a horse.

We should cut the horse some slack here.

 

If you're 300 lbs, you immediately have an advantage in any contest of man vs man strength. In ultra-simplified physics, Valuev would have to push 215 lbs plus Povetkin's resisting strength around to wrestle with Povetkin. Povetkin could have to push 300 lbs plus Valuev's resisting strength. Even if their strength was equal, Valuev's sheer bulk would make it harder for Povetkin to outmuscle him.

 

A 7"0 300 lb man cannot punch like Tyson. Their body mechanics are too inferior for such beautiful movements. A Tyson uppercut in the 1980s was like a work of art and Valuev in comparison can't even physically draw a square.

 

On top of that, because of "the giant-problem" of surface and volume, Valuev would be out of gas after a few rounds of putting everything behind his punches.

So, he mostly throws jabs/arm punches unless his foe is hurt.

 

True. In fact, most boxers above 6"5 are arm-punchers. Even Wlad, who has very good technique, doesn't throw his punches with his body behind them even to the extent that Lewis or Bowe did. Vitali, Fields, Valuev, Akinwande etc. etc. are all armpunchers. Michael Grant, who is an exception to this rule, was so clumsy and awkward that he was nearly falling over himself just to throw a power-punch.

Compare that to even a badly trained Tyson, or especially in comparison to someone like Duran or Robinson. The human body is not designed to be that big and its mechanics suffer beyond a certain size.

 

I'll take you up on that bet! :nut lol

 

I think his size is a major factor obviously for him not commitiing to huge shots, a 100% power shot from him would ko anyone even through the guard i bet!! But it will be a slow and hugely telegraphed shot which will be avoided and countered.

 

Well Valuov can do 12 rounds well. Which is pretty good for 320 pounds, so he has some stamina.
He said he was glad to fight McClain in that he'd not fought any one big...then the leg thing happened. It's hard always punching down at someone.

 

Lets not forget he is still work in progress... his last 2 fights he seemed to be improving at a impressive rate.
He works the jab more and with more authority.. and he has more snap to his punches.
The guy also has a very impressive accuracy.. he might not be quick but his timing is pretty good.

I can understand the hate for him as he is not always pretty too watch and people find his size unfair.
Personally i have nothing but respect for a guy that overcame his physical drawbacks .. is willing to put in lots n lots of work to improve himself, he always comes in the ring in shape and can go a hard 12 without any issues (whats the excuse for the non 7ft 300lb guys?)
I have yet to see him get backedup and when he wants he has alot of strength ... maybe not p4p but as said before .. in absolute terms hes very very strong.

Add to that the guy is intelligent .. writes poetry to his wife... is always respectful of his opponent and is very gracious in defeat (he could have gotten the nod vs Chagaev) did he complain or make any excuses? no he said he would go back and train hard and try again... and thats just what he did.

 

Whenever he fights I cant help wondering about his amazing stamina. The huge behemoth's stamina is impressive.In terms of stamina neither Briggs nor Peter nor the Klitschko brothers play in his league.

 

Punching power comes largely from your base, your calves, hams, thighs and is translated through your core muscles. The last little snap on your punches is a product of back and shoulder muscles. It is a whole body activity- largely using balance and body control- that can not be isolated to one muscle group. We've all seen the rail thin waif who hits like a freight train and the muscle bound guy who can't break an egg.