Vasiliy Lomachenko Vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr. @ Lightweight — Who Wins?

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Vasiliy Lomachenko Vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr.

  1. Lomachenko By T/KO/No Mas

  2. Lomachenko By Decision

  3. Mayweather By T/KO

  4. Mayweather By Decision

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  1. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    If we are talking prime for prime Loma was 35 when he fought Haney.
     
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  2. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Kidding themselves or fanboying huh?

    Tell me, which Loma performance points to him giving Floyd a razor close fight? Which one?

    Beating Gary Russell or a Rigo who had never fought above 122? Thats the stuff legends are made of, let me tell you.

    Blowing the Lopez fight? Yeah, that one sure shows that he could push Floyd to the brink...

    Having a rough go and getting dropped by a past-prime Linares? Wow, prime Floyd would have his hands full...

    And funny... this 35 year old Loma gets excused for losing to an average fighter in Haney, let he looked like a prime killer again in his next fight against Kambosos. Funny how that works.

    Good luck formulating an argument for Loma having a razor close fight with Floyd. Because that conclusion is based PURELY on Loma fanboyism, and not on anything that Loma has demonstrated against top fighters.
     
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  3. SpeedKills

    SpeedKills Well-Known Member Full Member

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    In Ukraine, Lomachenko.
     
  4. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    He beat Gary Russel in his third fight which is very impressive also nobody in their right mind thinks that he actually lost to Haney. So you think Floyd is some superhero who would dominate a 2 x gold medalist and multi weight world champion? Floyd is an ATG but he ducked and cherry picked for a reason he was not unbeatable.

    Loma ended up getting Linares out of there who was a elite fighter in the division at the time. As for the Lopez fight I thought that he showed good heart turning the screw halfway through the fight while clearly injured. You can't be expected to dominate every opponent you fight especially when fighting above your natural. Lesser fighters than Loma gave Floyd close fights.
     
  5. JMotrain

    JMotrain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Floyd struggled twice with Maidana and twice with Castillo (yeah he won the rematch, it was still an 8-4 type of fight).

    Does that make him absurdly overrated? Or perhaps he underperformed, just like Loma did against Lopez? You *****s make me laugh, as if Mayweather never dropped rounds or struggled in fights.
     
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  6. Xplosive

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    I have no love for Floyd anymore. He's a deplorable human being and ultimately he's hurt the sport.

    However, the ONLY close fight in Floyd's prime was the first Castillo fight, which to be fair I thought Floyd lost. Castillo pushed that fight to the brink through his size, strength, and physicality, traits that Loma lacks.

    All I hear for Loma's dud performances are a bunch of excuses, which is par for the course for Lomachenko fans.

    Loma has not amassed a win resume to say with any objectivity that he'd have a close fight with a prime Floyd. He doesn't have the style nor the size to do so.

    He'd struggle with Floyd's range and handspeed alone. Teo was consistently beating him to the punch for Christ sake. Trying to get into range on Floyd, he'd find himself getting countered and hurt. And when he does manage to get inside, Floyd was WAYYY physically stronger than him and would have no problem bullying him on the inside.

    He'd also find himself getting consistently outthought and outstrategized.

    There is no path to Loma giving Floyd a close fight. And your fanboy accusation would fall flat with me, because like I said I hate Floyd.

    But I also remember the pre-Money Mayweather Floyd, the Pretty Boy Floyd. And Loma was NEVER EVER on PBF's level.
     
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  7. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    Yep exactly. Floyd was a great fighter but if he didn't duck and cherry pick certain fighters he wouldn't have remained undefeated. Floyd fans are more delusional then any and I know this because I used to be a huge Mayweather fan before I became better educated on the sport.
     
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  8. JMotrain

    JMotrain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I have no hesitation saying Mayweather was a great fighter. He had some of the best defense I've seen. But his delusional fanbase has him winning every H2H matchup with ease, when he already struggled with fighters who weren't anywhere close to ATGs. No, I'm not saying Loma is an ATG but he isn't any worse than Castillo or Maidana.
     
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  9. Xplosive

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    Prime Castillo would beat the Hell outta Loma.
     
  10. Xplosive

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    Castillo would beat Lomachenko and the Maidana fight took place at 147 against an aged Floyd.

    How does the Maidana fight in any way relate to fighting Loma at 130-135?

    Floyd would NOT win every H2H matchup against greats. I'd pick a prime Duran, Whitaker, and Armstrong over him at 135, just to give three examples. Quite possibly Chavez and Carlos Ortiz as well.

    But here's a tough pill for you Loma fanboys to swallow, and I know it's gonna hurt to hear this truth: Loma is and was never on the level of a Duran, Whitaker, Armstrong, Chavez, or Ortiz.
     
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  11. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    Loma is an expert on getting inside on the bigger man he would get to Floyd I am not saying he would hurt him but he would land and it would be Floyd having to make the adjustments which he has proven to be very capable of. Loma may get out strategized but it would not be a wash as Loma is very strategic himself.

    Teo was beating him too the punch early before Loma made adjustments and started hitting Teo with 2' and 3's. Maidana was beating Floyd to the punch before he made adjustments.
    This level that Floyd is put on is smoke and mirrors, saying there is no path to victory for Loma is just laughable and it is Floyd's fan base that are always saying "No excuses" because he retired undefeated so they think that line is some sort of check mate when the reality is there are valid excuses for underperforming such as injury or inactivity.
     
  12. Xplosive

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    Your reading comprehension must be off, because I'm not a member of Floyd's fan base.

    But I do subscribe to the school of thought that Lomachenko is one of the most overrated fighters in boxing history, and there's much evidence to back that.
     
  13. Russell

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    Floyd embarrasses him. Different levels of fighter.
     
  14. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Loma just had bad nights! Leave him alone! Floyd could never stand up to the Loma that won 8-4 over the generational fighter that was Gary Russell.
     
  15. Russell

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    He's sure had a lot of performances that need to be validated for an ATG that doens't even have like 20 fights. Wonder what his record would of looked like if he had a Ruben Olivares or Chavez kind of schedule.