Vastly Overrated ...

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  1. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    1970's George Foreman

    Max Baer's power

    Jimmy Young
     
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  2. Blood Green

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    70's heavyweight era (because there were a lot of good fights and American fighters).
     
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  3. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    This thread.
     
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  4. timmers612

    timmers612 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well said, the threads not the most credible. George in the 70's at his best was awesome, Max's right hand power hasn't been doubted by any credible scribe I've viewed over the decades, and Jimmy's wins over Lyle, Foreman, within a hair of Norton, and to most over Ali makes his best days anything but overated. Nuff said.
     
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  5. red cobra

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    :thumbsup
     
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  6. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Exactly.:good
     
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  7. red cobra

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  8. he grant

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    Foreman in the 70's was an extremely hard punching and strong fighter who was wild, emotionally weak and had no ability to pace himself. He excelled against certain styles and was exposed by others. He was "at his best" against a 32 year old Ali and Jimmy Young and failed each time. There is a reason many boxing observers said the 90's Foreman beats the 70's Foreman.

    Max Baer was a big right hand puncher but to say he was one of the hardest hitters that ever lived is in my opinion a gross over statement. I can list dozen fighters off the top of my head at heavyweight that were bigger punchers but when the name Baer comes up many compare him to an Shavers/Foreman/Liston and to me, based on who he fought, that is a big over ststement.

    Jimmy Young was a cutesy boxer and a spoiler. He was brave, had heart and was hard to look good against. He was not a great heavyweight unless you considered Ossie O an all time great.
     
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  9. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    It sure has your attention ... three posts by you in the first ten minutes ... why not ignore it hypocrite ?
     
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  10. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Just helping to make it better sputnik...I'm doing you a favor..!!
     
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  11. Vince Voltage

    Vince Voltage Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I knew Boxed Ears would appear on this thread very quickly, once the words "Jimmy Young" were read. Nice work on that calling card, B.E..

    I don't know if he was overated or not, but Jmmy was certainly appreciated by quite a few fans, myself included.

    George wasn't overated in the 70's. As for Max, I like him, but honestly I'm unimpressed by footage that I see of him. The truth is though, it's pretty ****ing hard to compare punching power.
     
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  12. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Pascual Perez.......slightly overrated.....
     
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  13. salsanchezfan

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    Heavyweights.
     
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  14. Swarmer

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    Maxie could hit pretty hard. Buddy too. Foreman has a lot of force, but way less speed and accuracy.
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  15. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    Yeah that might make them more deadly in their own way. Maybe they were better at delivering their power.
     
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