Vasyl Anatoliyovych Lomachenko vs. Jamaine Ortiz & Robeisy Ramirez vs. Jose Matias Romero RBR.

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  1. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Precisely what I saw
     
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    The couple Live scorecards I was watching had Ortiz winning lol
     
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  3. CST80

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    Round 1 Ortiz 10-9
    Round 2 Ortiz 10-9
    Round 3 Lomachenko 10-9
    Round 4 Ortiz 10-9

    Not clear cut at all, Lomachenko landed the sharper cleaner shots from range a few of them even eye catching. But Ortiz may have edged him with inside work, and a decent flurry late.
     
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  4. CST80

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    Round 1 Ortiz 10-9
    Round 2 Ortiz 10-9
    Round 3 Lomachenko 10-9
    Round 4 Ortiz 10-9
    Round 5 Lomachenko 10-9

    Ortiz landed next to nothing of note in he 5th, he was falling short constantly. Loma came out aggressive, landed a few one two, and clean straight lefts throughout. Another easy round to score.
     
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  5. Ducklerr

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    Exactamente
     
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  6. CST80

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    Round 1 Ortiz 10-9
    Round 2 Ortiz 10-9
    Round 3 Lomachenko 10-9
    Round 4 Ortiz 10-9
    Round 5 Lomachenko 10-9
    Round 6 Lomachenko 10-9

    Another relatively easy round to score. Loma hurts him to the body early, parrying the jab and countering over it with several one twos, and his work with the jab, the upjab in particular was lovely. Ortiz still punching arms and shoulders.
     
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  7. Betyabeatyaup

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    I honestly expect it to be a walk in the park. Haney has nothing to keep him off and is going to get hurt. I’d like Loma to stop Haney for the belts and call it a day.
     
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  8. CST80

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    Round 1 Ortiz 10-9
    Round 2 Ortiz 10-9
    Round 3 Lomachenko 10-9
    Round 4 Ortiz 10-9
    Round 5 Lomachenko 10-9
    Round 6 Lomachenko 10-9
    Round 7 Lomachenko 10-9

    Ortiz goes southpaw, giving him a different look to deal with, Loma not throwing much, Ortiz throwing a lot, to the forearms, nothing landing clean, then he goes back orthodox after Loma clips him, Loma wins last minute in close round, and in the process edges it.
     
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  9. Betyabeatyaup

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    Agreed. I’ve noticed that people actually can’t see what is landing and what isn’t when you have fast fighters in the ring. The commentators clearly can’t see what’s happening, and apparently neither can most fans. Loma put in another brilliant defensive effort, he rarely got touched cleanly. Ortiz is bullet fast, bigger than Teo and faster with the feet and sneaky punches than anyone (including GRJ) Loma has fought. I’m actually looking forward to seeing what Ortiz does from here. Loma will mop Haney if Haney is game, but where does Ortiz go? He’s moving up, maybe vs Teo? I’d certainly pick Ortiz in that fight.
     
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    He really is the worst commentator I’ve ever heard. It’s funny because I thought he was hard done by the commentary in the first Pac fight, they didn’t give him credit for what he did. But **** that dude now, he has no idea what is happening in the ring and just creates a narrative about what’s happening based on where his crack high is peaking. He has no idea and creates fake stories about fights for the fans to parrot.
     
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  11. Betyabeatyaup

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    Good comparison, a challenging fight but in context an extremely impressive and clear win.
     
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  12. CST80

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    Round 1 Ortiz 10-9
    Round 2 Ortiz 10-9
    Round 3 Lomachenko 10-9
    Round 4 Ortiz 10-9
    Round 5 Lomachenko 10-9
    Round 6 Lomachenko 10-9
    Round 7 Lomachenko 10-9
    Round 8 Ortiz 10-9

    The success of Ortiz in the 8ty has been overstated by many. But he did win it, Loma was getting overeager and got sloppy, allowing Ortiz to land a few clean counters, but the rest consisted of him staying in Loma's grill and flurrying, many of those shots weren't landing clean.
     
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  13. CST80

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    Round 1 Ortiz 10-9
    Round 2 Ortiz 10-9
    Round 3 Lomachenko 10-9
    Round 4 Ortiz 10-9
    Round 5 Lomachenko 10-9
    Round 6 Lomachenko 10-9
    Round 7 Lomachenko 10-9
    Round 8 Ortiz 10-9
    Round 9 Lomachenko 10-9
    Round 10 Lomachenko 10-9
    Round 11 Lomachenko 10-9
    Round 12 Lomachenko 10-9

    I already saw rounds 9-12, which were all fairly definitive Loma rounds, so I'm not going to watch them again. No real controversy, Ortiz's style was annoying and gave Loma quite a few issues with his speed, and volume, even though he wasn't all that accurate. But Loma won this fairly handily, anyone who says otherwise, is a deranged hater.

    116-112 Lomachenko

    117-111 is fine as well.
     
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  14. Ducklerr

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    I thought 4 and 8 were the 2 definite Ortiz rounds. Our cards are the same so far except I gave Loma the 2nd which was a close round.
     
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  15. CST80

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    I came ridiculously close to giving it to Lma as well, so I have zero issue with your scorecard.
     
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