Vasyl Anatoliyovych Lomachenko vs. Jamaine Ortiz & Robeisy Ramirez vs. Jose Matias Romero RBR.

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  1. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    I at first had Ortiz with the 5th but changed it after reviewing it in my mind—
     
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  2. hoopsman

    hoopsman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Excellent post.
     
  3. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    Another perspective...

    Loma had a significant amount of experience with Ortiz as well, so it wasn't like Loma didn't get extended looks and some familiarity with him.
     
  4. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  5. ShanannaGator11

    ShanannaGator11 "She said I could." Full Member

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    Loma won. my card was 8-4. only comment i have on it is if Loma trys to play Paquiao and lunge in and throw a flurry of punches against Haney it will not end well. Haney will catch him every time. I still think Loma beats Haney but it will be close and a very tough fight for both. Both will have to be on point to win.
     
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  6. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But Loma won in the end and he finished stronger of the two also.

    Job done against a tough opponent.
     
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  7. ShanannaGator11

    ShanannaGator11 "She said I could." Full Member

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    A point that I don't think many people key in on is Loma is always in position to throw. Thats something he is very good at but at this higher weight he is physically moved when he is hit. lower weight Loma could take a body shot and be able to return fire with precision because he would still be in position to throw. 135 Loma gets hit with anything clean he is physically moved out of position from the shot he just absorbed. At this weight it has really caused his offensive to suffer because he will always disengage to reset himself
     
  8. Betyabeatyaup

    Betyabeatyaup Active Member Full Member

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    Another perspective, Ortiz is one of (if not the best) fighters Loma has fought. Just because someone is an unknown doesn’t mean that they are unworthy.
     
  9. Betyabeatyaup

    Betyabeatyaup Active Member Full Member

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    Haney is going to get toyed with in every way, it’s not even going to be competitive.
     
  10. Betyabeatyaup

    Betyabeatyaup Active Member Full Member

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    Obviously not a serious post. There’s a reason why no one doubted that Loma would win both rematches. Question his level, yeah okay lol
     
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  11. ShanannaGator11

    ShanannaGator11 "She said I could." Full Member

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    I won't mind seeing that at all to be honest. Hope it's a good fight. I suspect it will
     
  12. drenlou

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    115-113 is the best scorecard because it reflects how competitive the fight really was. 116-112 is fine too.
     
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  13. ShanannaGator11

    ShanannaGator11 "She said I could." Full Member

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    If you don't mind me asking, what makes you think it will not be competitive? is it Loma is just better, or do you think Haney is not as good as people say he is? I think Haney is very good but i don't think he really has been tested or pushed hard enough to really find out what he is made of. Loma is Loma and will do Loma things all night and i think he will beat Haney but i hope it will bring the best of Haney out so we can see what kind of fight he has in him because no one he has faced yet has pulled it out of him.
     
  14. Goran_

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    watched it 4 times now and here is my final score card and I think it reflects what genuinely went on... ortiz was game and use his jab effectively somewhat but although it was keeping loma honest it was hitting gloves a lot, it definitely nullified the ukrainians output to an extent... but the right man won, he forced the bigger man back , dictated the pace, landed the bigger & better shots and switched it up in the championship rounds.. look forward to seeing ortiz again he has a bright future, I suspect at welterweight lol...

    1 Ortiz more output even though much of it wasn't landing it was keeping loma from Throwing back although he did come back strong towards the end

    2 Loma .. Ortiz pumping out the jab a lot and keeping Loma circling and honest but its mostly landing on the gloves and loma lands the more effective harder shops here

    3 im saying even round...again ortiz pumping out that job a lot, it's effective at keeping Loma from getting off somewhat but it's hitting gloves mainly... Loma comes on strong late and staggers him with a left and finishes with another left towards the end of the round it depends what you prefer the work rate of ortiz or the better shots from Loma

    4 ortiz pretty dominant round landing much more and and using his strength and athleticism here, bullied Loma a bit there

    5 Loma.. starting strong here, landing clean and forcing ortiz back.. fairly dominant round..

    6 Loma starts strong again pushing him back landing to head and body.. ortiz is still game but he doesn't have the footwork or shot selection of Loma.. relies mainly on the jab.. Loma is a bag of tricks landing the better more effective shots , competitive round towards the end tho but overall Loma edged it for me

    7 ortiz ... both landing nice shots here not afraid to throw... tit for tat this round difficult one to score, edge ortiz tho but close

    8 Ortiz ... both throwing again here ortiz landing some cheeky shots too.. nice counters... physical round that, think ortiz bossed it more tho

    9 Loma.. starts well .. all over Ortiz.. beautiful shot selection ortiz is taking some big shots here.. still game though but looks a bit gassed now and mentally exhausted & looked outclassed there

    10 Loma.. ortiz has really fast hands but loma counters him nicely, stalking him now beautiful shot selection, Ortiz getting outclassed, ortiz still trying to be cute lands couple of well placed shots but fairly dominant Loma round

    11 Loma.. cracks him hard yet again snapping his head back, loma teeing off on him here having his way with him, vintage stuff.. dominate round it looks a Different Class now Ortiz getting more disheveled

    12 Loma.. Ortiz starts well but Loma quickly gets on top with nice hard shots.. Ortiz hear has been snapped back so many times in this fight now, loma bullying him.. more of the same basically the Ukrainian techician just has too much for the young kid.. dominant round

    Loma competitive hard fought but well deserved UD. Fair play to both.