Vasyl Anatolyevich Lomachenko vs. Teófimo Andrés López & Alejandro Saucedo vs. Arnold Barboza Jr RBR

MrFoFody · Oct 17, 2020

The right man legitimately won but that 119 - 109 card is trash

Diddy · Oct 17, 2020

Serge said: ↑

Lopez doesn't deserve to waltz straight into a fight for all the m

STFU you grotesque shit licking bald weasel, I gave Lopez plenty of credit. He's a super all round talent but he was much bigger and more powerful and if you don't think that played an absolutely huge factor in the fight you DKSAB.

But don't take my word for it, baldy

''He’s better off at 130 or 126,” Lopez told ***********. “I think that 135 is too heavy for him. I think that he’s too sluggish at 135. But let’s see, man. Let’s see what this whole one-year rest does for him.

“I’m a big 135 pounder. I can be fighting at 140 right now. I’m very comfortable at this weight. Everything that this man does do that they say, he’s decreasing. I’m not even in my prime yet and I’m out here just outdoing guys. He’s on his way out, and it’s showing. Your body can only take so much damage, and I guarantee you we’re going to put some damage on this man.”

“He’s on the way out of the sport and 135 is just too big ,” the Honduran-American said.

Lomachenko, 32, started his career in 2013 as a 126-pounder. Lopez, 23, has fought at 135 since he turned pro in 2016.

''I think that he's on his way out. I really do believe that and 135 is just too much of a big weight class for him''

''If you look at the Luke Campbell fight, you can see there is just a lot of wear-and-tear on his body.

“I look at it like this—maybe this whole COVID-19 year helped him out. Maybe he needed it. That way he can probably at least hang in there a little bit with me. It’s going to be a great fight. I just look at the facts. You see a fighter who has gone up in weight class. Sometimes they go up too much where their body isn’t used to it, or the weight class is too big for them.''

“This man has had over 400 fights. I have over 150 fights. I’m 23. I’m going to tell you this, when I get to camp, oh man, my body aches sometimes. If I’m 23 and dealing with stuff at this age, I can only imagine what he must be going through at 32 with over 400 fights.”

''I'm not going to have a 126 pounder come out here and try and take over on me. I'm a big guy''

“A lot of people talk very highly about him. But if you look at it, there were so many mistakes he made against Luke Campbell. Loma tries too hard to make everybody think he can still do it, even though he’s 32 years old.

Interviewer: ''Lomachenko is small for the weight class''

Teofimo: ''Very!''

''No 126 pounder is beating my son'' --Teofimo Lopez Sr.

Day of the weigh in

''Skinny Fimo now, but then you get the monster tomorrow''

''By tomorrow I'm going to look like a different man. A whole new man''

--Teofimo Lopez
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There’s a lot of truth in here but I think we can all agree Loma just waited too damn long tonight. Forget the cards. He didn’t start fighting until ROUND 7! You can’t do that against a guy on Lopez’s level. He will pocket every round when you are posing and studying. He’s not Jason Sosa. As I’m watching what’s transpiring I said to myself as Round 4 and 5 passed “is Loma REALLY gonna wait til the 2nd half of the fight to turn it up against THIS guy?” So foolish. I’d like to see the fight again. I doubt we get it. Lopez now has other fish to fry.

CST80 · Oct 17, 2020

Teofimo's nose is now heading East and West at the same time.

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Phinx · Oct 17, 2020

Lots of fighters have fought large weight disparities. Duran vs Barkley. On top of the fact that Barkley was far more tested & experienced than Lopez. Duran was the one moving up and at 37 yrs old.

Pacquio is still ridiculous in his 40's fighting at 147. He doesn't belong there. Even Floyd has fought plenty above his natural weight.

Reppin501 · Oct 17, 2020

CST80 said: ↑

Stop the gloating, you vomit. Loma lost by a round, arguably did enough to get a draw, and you're masturbating violently like Lopez KO'd him cold. Yeah he won, but calm down. I've never seen so many people be absolutely petulant sore winners.
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Why do you do this after every fight? You have outlandish cards and then lash out at the judges and/or the forum. Have you considered that you get too emotionally invested and that perhaps it causes your cards to be flawed?

JacK Rauber · Oct 17, 2020

Diddy said: ↑

There’s a lot of truth in here but I think we can all agree Loma just waited too damn long tonight. Forget the cards. He didn’t start fighting until ROUND 7! You can’t do that against a guy on Lopez’s level. He will pocket every round when you are posing and studying. He’s not Jason Sosa. As I’m watching what’s transpiring I said to myself as Round 4 and 5 passed “is Loma REALLY gonna wait til the 2nd half of the fight to turn it up against THIS guy?” So foolish. I’d like to see the fight again. I doubt we get it. Lopez now has other fish to fry.
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How do you give rounds 2 and 7 to Lopez? We know Loma swept rounds 8 thru 11. How is Lopez then the clear winner?

fistsof steel · Oct 17, 2020

Rumsfeld said: ↑

119-109?
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Adelaide Byrdesqe.!!!!

JacK Rauber · Oct 17, 2020

Reppin501 said: ↑

Why do you do this after every fight? You have outlandish cards and then lash out at the judges and/or the forum. Have you considered that you get too emotionally invested and that perhaps it causes your cards to be flawed?
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If anyone is emotionally invested it appears to be you since you keep repeating the same accusations for people who don't see it the way you do. We'll just have to agree to disagree.

Diddy · Oct 17, 2020

JacK Rauber said: ↑

How do you give rounds 2 and 7 to Lopez? We know Loma swept rounds 8 thru 11. How is Lopez then the clear winner?
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If you want to give Rd2 to Loma, eh fine. 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 12 were all clear as day Lopez rounds. Right there is a draw for him at worst. Round 7 and 8 were probably Lopez rounds as well, just closer. 9-10-11 were Loma rounds. If I stretch I can get to 5 rounds for Loma, sure. I most definitely cannot get to SEVEN.

Reppin501 · Oct 17, 2020

Serge said: ↑

Lopez doesn't deserve to waltz straight into a fight for all the m

STFU you grotesque shit licking bald weasel, I gave Lopez plenty of credit. He's a super all round talent but he was much bigger and more powerful and if you don't think that played an absolutely huge factor in the fight you DKSAB.

But don't take my word for it, baldy

''He’s better off at 130 or 126,” Lopez told ***********. “I think that 135 is too heavy for him. I think that he’s too sluggish at 135. But let’s see, man. Let’s see what this whole one-year rest does for him.

“I’m a big 135 pounder. I can be fighting at 140 right now. I’m very comfortable at this weight. Everything that this man does do that they say, he’s decreasing. I’m not even in my prime yet and I’m out here just outdoing guys. He’s on his way out, and it’s showing. Your body can only take so much damage, and I guarantee you we’re going to put some damage on this man.”

“He’s on the way out of the sport and 135 is just too big ,” the Honduran-American said.

Lomachenko, 32, started his career in 2013 as a 126-pounder. Lopez, 23, has fought at 135 since he turned pro in 2016.

''I think that he's on his way out. I really do believe that and 135 is just too much of a big weight class for him''

''If you look at the Luke Campbell fight, you can see there is just a lot of wear-and-tear on his body.

“I look at it like this—maybe this whole COVID-19 year helped him out. Maybe he needed it. That way he can probably at least hang in there a little bit with me. It’s going to be a great fight. I just look at the facts. You see a fighter who has gone up in weight class. Sometimes they go up too much where their body isn’t used to it, or the weight class is too big for them.''

“This man has had over 400 fights. I have over 150 fights. I’m 23. I’m going to tell you this, when I get to camp, oh man, my body aches sometimes. If I’m 23 and dealing with stuff at this age, I can only imagine what he must be going through at 32 with over 400 fights.”

''I'm not going to have a 126 pounder come out here and try and take over on me. I'm a big guy''

“A lot of people talk very highly about him. But if you look at it, there were so many mistakes he made against Luke Campbell. Loma tries too hard to make everybody think he can still do it, even though he’s 32 years old.

Interviewer: ''Lomachenko is small for the weight class''

Teofimo: ''Very!''

''No 126 pounder is beating my son'' --Teofimo Lopez Sr.

Day of the weigh in

''Skinny Fimo now, but then you get the monster tomorrow''

''By tomorrow I'm going to look like a different man. A whole new man''

--Teofimo Lopez
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Lol...are you OK?

Serge · Oct 17, 2020

Diddy said: ↑

There’s a lot of truth in here but I think we can all agree Loma just waited too damn long tonight. Forget the cards. He didn’t start fighting until ROUND 7! You can’t do that against a guy on Lopez’s level. He will pocket every round when you are posing and studying. He’s not Jason Sosa. As I’m watching what’s transpiring I said to myself as Round 4 and 5 passed “is Loma REALLY gonna wait til the 2nd half of the fight to turn it up against THIS guy?” So foolish. I’d like to see the fight again. I doubt we get it. Lopez now has other fish to fry.
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I think the slow start was a combination of ring rust and him having to be very cautious of the power and size of Lopez.

JacK Rauber · Oct 17, 2020

Diddy said: ↑

If you want to give Rd2 to Loma, eh fine. 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 12 were all clear as day Lopez rounds. Right there is a draw for him at worst. Round 7 and 8 were probably Lopez rounds as well, just closer. 9-10-11 were Loma rounds. If I stretch I can get to 5 rounds for Loma, sure. I most definitely cannot get to SEVEN.
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I said 6. I saw it as a draw, the same as Ward saw it.

Reppin501 · Oct 17, 2020

JacK Rauber said: ↑

If anyone is emotionally invested it appears to be you since you keep repeating the same accusations for people who don't see it the way you do. We'll just have to agree to disagree.
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Really...have I called anybody names or cursed at anybody? You scored the fight poorly, per your earlier comment, no more no less.

Diddy · Oct 17, 2020

JacK Rauber said: ↑

I said 6. I saw it as a draw, the same as Ward saw it.
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Ward’s cards are notoriously putrid. As putrid as the Julie L card. I felt like this fight was pretty damn easy to score. Lopez won 7 or 8 rounds.

Likethembigroundchunky · Oct 17, 2020

I overslept but it sounds like loma simply didn't get started. He did the same to campbell iirc.

Odd considering amateur boxing you have to figure out your opponent inside a minute and crack on.

Maybe loma is a little arrogant? I have my suspicions thats why the Salido fight went the way it did, the establishment knocking him down a peg.

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