Vasyl Anatolyevich Lomachenko vs. Teófimo Andrés López & Alejandro Saucedo vs. Arnold Barboza Jr RBR

I think the difference was Lopez just got to work. Even in Loma's best moments he would punch back. Loma was far too unwilling to take risks.
I had it 116-113 for Lopez for what it's worth.

Going to have to check out more of him.

 

I actually had a draw on the cards, but I felt Lopez deserved the win. I watched it first thing this morning so maybe my scoring was off

Disgustingly arrogant tactics from Loma, frankly. Assuming he could tap dance his way to win some rounds against a large and competent fighter like Lopez. Left it way too late to try and apply the pressure. I accept giving up the first couple of rounds to work things out but that was just silly.

Lopez to his credit fought smart. Applied pressure and didn't go all out early doors, just did enough to steal the rounds with his body work.

 

Yeah let's criticize the guy for not just taking fights he knows he can win easily. Jesus man

 

Loma didn't look undersized when he began to pile the pressure on in the championship rounds. Lopez had to push this tiny guy off him a number of times.

Sure size was a factor. Lopez was dangerous , everybody knew that.

His skill , speed and athleticism was also a factor. As was his mental stamina. Not succumbing to mental fatigue like so many others was very impressive to watch from Lopez.

I thought Lopez would wilt mentally but im not surprised he won. . Loma's style of shifting angles in close with a high guard opened up a lot of opportunity's for a fast and explosive guy like Lopez.

This is a great win for Lopez and he did it without controversy. Maybe the best win in the sport since Mayweather beat Pacquaio

 

In summary, this was one of the most intriguing fights I have seen in years. In the end, Loma miscalculated by a round but other than that he almost fought the perfect fight. He was on the verge of stopping Lopez in the 11th. He almost pulled it off. It's funny how people are. They swing hot and cold. They see things in black and white. So, it was all Lopez and then it was all Loma and then Lopez resurged in the 12th. No, go back. Why did Lopez's own wife hide her head in the second round? Because Loma landed the only hard, jolting punches. People act like Loma was swept through 7, won 8, 9, 10 and 11 and then Lopez closed the show. No, Loma took round 2, rounds 7 through 11 and Lopez took round 12 to earn the draw. Much respect to both fighters. I think if people were honest what shocked them the most was Lopez's ability to perform at such a high level with so much on the line. That he did. But if you go back and watch closely, Lopez's head was snapped back far more times than Loma's. Loma's greatest vulnerability was the body and Lopez hit his mark several times, keeping Loma too cautious but I still think this is one of the best fights I have seen in a long time. Lastly, the "professional" announcers were as wrong as everyone watching. They determined much too early that Loma was outclassed. Loma was not. He just waited too long but nearly had one of the most brilliant come-from-behind victories ever fought because had Loma stopped Lopez late he would have become the God Lopez thought he wasn't.

 

Just watched this. Thought it was a clear 8 - 4 victory for Lopez, possibly even 9 - 3. Lopez was an extremely dominant ring general, both in exchanges and positioning, and Loma's activity was extremely lacking and without effect. Even when he did throw he was regularly grazing or immediately offset by Lopez counters. Lopez's biggest flaw was when he started to back off and stop using his powerful jab, which was the key to his success, allowing Loma to come on later. With more and more refinement and experience, I don't think it is is silly to say Lopez could stop Loma a second time round.

I also found it funny that, given how much Loma has complained in his career about fouls, he was regularly leading in with his head as he started to get more desperate. This was a very convincing performance, and people who think this was a draw (or God forbid a Loma victory) do not know how to score, especially in regards to generalship. 7-5 is the absolute closest you can argue IMO.

Also, absolutely God awful commentary. Truly awful.

 

Loma is still great, he just ran in to a younger, hungry, big, strong fighter who outworked him. People are saying Loma could have done more, and I most definitely agree with that but after watching the 12th round I’m not sure Lopez didn’t realize he could have done a lot more too. Props to Lopez he definitely proved me wrong.

 

Lopez had an answer for everything loma did.. But i figured you had found plenty of rounds to give loma rite? Or did u have him winning the fight? Lol

 

Her mask was up too high

 

Good fight. lol at Lomachenko being exposed. He dared to be great. We need more fighters like that. Lopez was at least two weight classes bigger than Lomachenko and a very good fighter in his own right. All things considered, Lomachenko was not diminished imo by the fight last night.

 

This is spot on.

 

Its not incompetence. Scoring boxing is not brain surgery. Its corruption obviously

 

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The vid I had was missing about 15-30 seconds from the start of each round. So, keep that in mind a bit.

Spoiler: Scoring Thoughts

Anyway, the entire story of the first half seemed to be that Lomachenko looked sharper and better when he bothered to throw punches. He was made gunshy by Lopez's power, and Lopez controlled the fight well with his jab. They were close rounds though, due to neither landing much. To award any rounds to Lomachenko, IMO, you have to completely ignore the whole feel of the round and specifically focus on the quality of punches landed. The fourth was the one I can see going to Loma, if any. I didn't give it him though.

Loma was more active, and forced the pace in the seventh. Neither landed anything of significance though. After that, Loma's offense worked much better. He was quicker on the draw, more active and was throwing crisp combinations. He just seemed much more awake.

Round 12 was awesome, Teo landing big and forcing him back. Clear round for him.

Even watching it after the fact, and already knowing the result, the thread of Teo's right hand still seemed ever present. Can definitely see why Loma fought cautious for so long.

Teo's jab was really good. Very impressed with his seemingly natural aptitude for judging and manipulating distance. Considering the quality of Lomachenko's foot-work, he also did a damn good job of lining up his lead-foot with his lead shoulder. Having that jab's line of fire as straight as possible was a massive factor in why it was so much more effective than anyone else's. That and his reach.

I do have to say, I think Loma wins a rematch should there be one.

This fight has definitely reaffirmed the idea that Loma is toast vs an ATG body puncher.

 

Yeah, it's weird lol especially given neither are black

 

Canelo had 13 years and 20 pounds on Mayweather, if you say Teo had 15.