Vasyl Anatolyevich Lomachenko vs. Teófimo Andrés López & Alejandro Saucedo vs. Arnold Barboza Jr RBR

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  1. young_wolverine

    young_wolverine Member Full Member

    May 31, 2019
    Watched it at work wasnt really paying attention and had to look away to do stuff quite often but I thought Loma was way up and was shocked when the judges gave it to Lopez. but I def gay Lopes the first couple and the twelth I rewatched it when I got home and had it for Lopez by one round it was a really amazing fight
  2. Mod-Mania

    Mod-Mania Boxing Addict Full Member

    Aug 12, 2012
    Loma got exposed.
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  3. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict banned Full Member

    Nov 20, 2007
    Lets not call him names mate, plus I'm pretty sure he's a heterosexual or bi at most.
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  4. Slowhand

    Slowhand Member Full Member

    Dec 26, 2012
    Just took a quick look, seemed like first half Teo´s reach and hand speed kept Loma from winning the lead foot battle and slipping under that jab, so Loma couldn´t get to his range and angles. Second half Teo faded a bit but not enough so the better man won. Loma should´ve just picked up the pace earlier, despite the risk.
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  5. ArseBandit

    ArseBandit Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Apr 22, 2012
    Loma didn't seem so smart last night. He waited until the 8th round to try anything different. Teo clean swept the first 7 imo.

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  6. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Jul 1, 2010
    Exposed for what? He was outsized and out powered by a guy who had 15lbs on him and was 10 years younger.

    Credit to Loma for having being unified at 135lbs in the first place.

    He had no business being there in reality.
  7. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxingoholican Full Member

    Oct 28, 2017
    I think the difference was Lopez just got to work. Even in Loma's best moments he would punch back. Loma was far too unwilling to take risks.
    I had it 116-113 for Lopez for what it's worth.

    Going to have to check out more of him.
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  8. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

    Feb 13, 2014
    I actually had a draw on the cards, but I felt Lopez deserved the win. I watched it first thing this morning so maybe my scoring was off

    Disgustingly arrogant tactics from Loma, frankly. Assuming he could tap dance his way to win some rounds against a large and competent fighter like Lopez. Left it way too late to try and apply the pressure. I accept giving up the first couple of rounds to work things out but that was just silly.

    Lopez to his credit fought smart. Applied pressure and didn't go all out early doors, just did enough to steal the rounds with his body work.
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  9. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Boxing Addict Full Member

    Oct 22, 2015
    Yeah let's criticize the guy for not just taking fights he knows he can win easily. Jesus man
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  10. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

    Jul 21, 2012
    Loma didn't look undersized when he began to pile the pressure on in the championship rounds. Lopez had to push this tiny guy off him a number of times.

    Sure size was a factor. Lopez was dangerous , everybody knew that.

    His skill , speed and athleticism was also a factor. As was his mental stamina. Not succumbing to mental fatigue like so many others was very impressive to watch from Lopez.

    I thought Lopez would wilt mentally but im not surprised he won. . Loma's style of shifting angles in close with a high guard opened up a lot of opportunity's for a fast and explosive guy like Lopez.

    This is a great win for Lopez and he did it without controversy. Maybe the best win in the sport since Mayweather beat Pacquaio :eyebrow2:
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  11. JacK Rauber

    JacK Rauber Try not to offend, try harder not to be offended Full Member

    Oct 20, 2013
    In summary, this was one of the most intriguing fights I have seen in years. In the end, Loma miscalculated by a round but other than that he almost fought the perfect fight. He was on the verge of stopping Lopez in the 11th. He almost pulled it off. It's funny how people are. They swing hot and cold. They see things in black and white. So, it was all Lopez and then it was all Loma and then Lopez resurged in the 12th. No, go back. Why did Lopez's own wife hide her head in the second round? Because Loma landed the only hard, jolting punches. People act like Loma was swept through 7, won 8, 9, 10 and 11 and then Lopez closed the show. No, Loma took round 2, rounds 7 through 11 and Lopez took round 12 to earn the draw. Much respect to both fighters. I think if people were honest what shocked them the most was Lopez's ability to perform at such a high level with so much on the line. That he did. But if you go back and watch closely, Lopez's head was snapped back far more times than Loma's. Loma's greatest vulnerability was the body and Lopez hit his mark several times, keeping Loma too cautious but I still think this is one of the best fights I have seen in a long time. Lastly, the "professional" announcers were as wrong as everyone watching. They determined much too early that Loma was outclassed. Loma was not. He just waited too long but nearly had one of the most brilliant come-from-behind victories ever fought because had Loma stopped Lopez late he would have become the God Lopez thought he wasn't.
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  12. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Bronsonville Full Member

    Jul 25, 2015
    Just watched this. Thought it was a clear 8 - 4 victory for Lopez, possibly even 9 - 3. Lopez was an extremely dominant ring general, both in exchanges and positioning, and Loma's activity was extremely lacking and without effect. Even when he did throw he was regularly grazing or immediately offset by Lopez counters. Lopez's biggest flaw was when he started to back off and stop using his powerful jab, which was the key to his success, allowing Loma to come on later. With more and more refinement and experience, I don't think it is is silly to say Lopez could stop Loma a second time round.

    I also found it funny that, given how much Loma has complained in his career about fouls, he was regularly leading in with his head as he started to get more desperate. This was a very convincing performance, and people who think this was a draw (or God forbid a Loma victory) do not know how to score, especially in regards to generalship. 7-5 is the absolute closest you can argue IMO.

    Also, absolutely God awful commentary. Truly awful.
  13. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

    Apr 26, 2010
    Loma is still great, he just ran in to a younger, hungry, big, strong fighter who outworked him. People are saying Loma could have done more, and I most definitely agree with that but after watching the 12th round I’m not sure Lopez didn’t realize he could have done a lot more too. Props to Lopez he definitely proved me wrong.
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  14. drenlou

    drenlou The Real KING OF THE HILL! Full Member

    Jan 22, 2015
    Lopez had an answer for everything loma did.. But i figured you had found plenty of rounds to give loma rite? Or did u have him winning the fight? Lol
  15. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

    Dec 9, 2012
    Her mask was up too high
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