Vasyl Lomachenko defeats the Greatest Opposition of all time

Outstanding, El. You always crunch the numbers for us.

Where would Terrence Crawford and Mikey Garcia be on the first list?

 

Numbers never lie.
Although by the eye test Loma looks on another level you have to prove it to these idiots who will argue blue in the face that someone like Terrence Crawford is somehow comparable.

 

Funnily enough the fighter he's faced with the worst W/L ratio is the one actually officially beat him, and therefore is not included in your statistic. Losing this fight helped his numbers.

 

Ever run the numbers on these guys?
01 - Sam Langford - Jeanette, McVey, Wills, Norfolk, Flowers, Gans, Godfrey, O'Brien
02 - Harry Greb - Tunney, Walker, Loughran, Gibbons, Norfolk, Slattery, Smith, Levinsky, Miske, Flowers, Rosenbloom
03 - Sugar Ray Robinson - Angott, Zivic, Armstrong, LaMotta, Gavilan, Villemain, Fullmer, Basilio, Graziano, Olson
04 - Henry Armstrong - Arizmendi, Ross, Ambers, Garcia, Angott, Wolgast, Jenkins, Zivic,
05 - Ezzard Charles - Louis, Walcott, Moore, Bivins, Burley, Maxim, Yarosz, Overlin, Marshall, Christoforidis, Lesnevich
06 - Bob Fitzsimmons - Dempsey, Maher, Corbett, Gardiner, O'Brien
07 - Muhammad Ali - Liston, Moore, Patterson, Frazier, Foreman, Norton, Ellis, Quarry
08 - Joe Gans - Erne, Connolly, Nelson, Sullivan, ?
09 - Joe Louis - Carnera, Levinsky, Baer, Uzcudun, Sharkey, Braddock, Schmeling, Conn, Nova, Walcott, Savold, Bivins
10 - Roberto Duran - Leonard, DeJesus, Buchanan, Barkley, Cuevas, Palomino, Ishimatsu, Mamby, Viruet, Marcel, Kobayashi
11 - Benny Leonard - Welsh, Dundee, Kilbane, Britton, White, Tendler
12 - Mickey Walker - Britton, Tendler, Flowers, Levinsky, Uzcudun, Rosenbloom
13 - Willie Pep - Saddler, Wright, Ortiz, Famechon
14 - Barney Ross - McLarnin, Canzoneri, Battalino, Garcia
15 - Archie Moore - Bivins, Chase, Williams, Johnson, Satterfield, Maxim, Olson, Cocoa Kid, Marshall
16 - Ray Leonard - Hagler, Hearns, Duran, Benitez, Kalule, Mayweather, Lalonde
17 - George Dixon - Kelly, Wallace, McCarthy, Sullivan
18 - Terry McGovern - Gans, Dixon, Erne, Palmer,
19 - Packey McFarland - Welsh, Britton, Gibbons
20 - Pernell Whitaker - Chavez, Ramirez, Mayweather, Haugen, Nelson, McGirt

 

According to your criteria, guys with very few fights would do the best on your thing, and the best thing for their average is for them to beat undefeated fighters. Miguel Cotto only had 47 fights and beat 6 undefeated guys. And Oscar De La Hoya only had 45 and beat about 6 undefeated guys too. Roy Jones Jr has fought 74 people but beat 8 undefeated fighters. Riddick Bowe had 44 fights and took 6 0s. Anthony Joshua has put up some decent numbers, and beat a couple of undefeated guys.

Guys with short careers like Leonard, Spinks, and Whitaker should really do well for this sort of thing. Just having Julio Cesar Chavez on his record twice when he was still about 100-1 has got to do great things for Oscar De La Hoya's ranking here. And when he fought Yori Boy Campas the guy was like 80-5. Whitaker only got a draw against an 89-0 Chavez but he did get the win against Jose Luis Ramirez when the guy was 102-7. Those kinds of competitors might juke the stats.

 

Few does not mean less than three. The Merriam-Webster Dictionary defines few as: not many persons or things, or consisting of or amounting to only a small number

#1 ----------> 18.0 Vasyl Lomachenko 11 fights 3 to title shot
#2 -----------> 08.3 Kostya Tszyu 34 fights 14 to title
#3 -----------> 07.9 Andre Ward 32 fights 21 to title
#4 -----------> 06.9 Guillermo Rigondeaux 19 fights 7 to title
#5 -----------> 06.6 Floyd Mayweather 50 fights 18 to title
#6 -----------> 06.4 Felix Trinidad 45 fights 20 to title
#7 -----------> 06.0 Myung Wuu Yuh 39, 19 fights to title
Seems like the fewer fights you have the easier it is to maintain this high average. Other common denominators appear to be amount of time in the amateur leagues and amount of time in the pros before you got a title shot.

Have you run the numbers on Naoya Inoue?

Naoya Inoue 14 fights 6 to title
17-1-2
16-3-0
32-9-1
38-7-1
20-2-5
24-6-1
43-1-2
17-4-0
29-2-1
18-3-3
18-1-1
17-2-4
9-10-0
16-4-1

314-55-22, 314/55=5.7 Am I doing that right?

Saensak Muangsurin would be 4.9, 394-79-47
Davey Moore would have been at 5.8 but for two ugly last opponents that dropped his average to 3.8, 291-75-6.

 

Check my math, I've got Oscar De La Hoya at 11.19. Michael Spinks is 4.6. Pernell Whitaker is 5.65 officially but 6.4 if you give him the Chavez and first Ramirez fights. Ray Leonard is 5.6.

 

Not one, but two gold medals!!!!!!! Now a two time world champion in two different weight divisions!!!!!!! He will fight the best. Rigo fans kept posting that Rigo would easily knock Lomachenko out, that he was faster, had bone crushing power, they said Rigo would break Lomachenko's jaw! Well, they were wrong. When they say that Rigo came up two weight divisons, they don't count the fact that Lomachenko came up one weight divsion. Yes, he easily beat Gary Russell at 126, then moved up to 130 and knocked Rocky Martinez out!!!!!!!

 

4 no mas
3 '0s'
Maybe 3 weight champ in 12 to 13 fights!

Wow!

 

wait wth are we doin here?